Andy Lester skribis 2007-02-05 15:20 (-0600): > I'm enthusiastic about Perl 6. I'm the PR guy for TPF. My problem > is that I have nothing to tell people about Perl 6 that is > interesting to them. There's only one thing that's worse than telling nothing: telling lies. And unfortunately, web pages that were once telling the truth, are now outdated and tell lies. Nobody did this on purpose, and certainly nobody intended it. I'm also not saying that it's your fault that the pages are outdated. But it would be very nice if you, in your PR role, could fix it. As for having nothing to tell, I don't buy that. Every mailing list summary, smoke report, post on pugscode.org, and meeting minutes, can be construed as news. PR is a form of art, so be creative :) If there's a constant aggregate of those things, on "the" Perl 6 website, then that's better PR than we have now: all kinds of sites that seem to indicate that nothing has been happening for years. Perl 6 PR needs all the "old news" to be *removed* and replaced by references to "the" Perl 6 website. And of course, it needs this central website. It would also help lots if the Apocalypses *themselves* carried large banners indicating that they are historic documents. Many people find them through Google or other direct links, and never read the warning. > People want to know when something will be done. Anything. They also want large sums of money, and world peace. We can't give them that, can we? But one can perhaps keep them updated about the progress. > All I can tell them now is "Work is happening." Have you done so? Repeatedly? > Pugs is doing amazing work, but it's not Perl 6. It's a closely related project that implements the language Perl 6. Perl 6 is several things. A language, and (in the future) an implementation. So far, we have the language only. And Pugs certainly does have everything to do with Perl 6, the language. As far as I'm concerned, Pugs news is Perl 6 news. > People never ask me "Tell me what work is being done on Parrot and > Perl 6." They say "When will Perl 6 be out?" That is a question > that continues to be unanswerable. Since when has PR been about answering actual questions? :) -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <juerd@juerd.nl> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <sales@convolution.nl> Ik vertrouw stemcomputers niet. Zie <http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/>.