On Monday 05 February 2007 19:38, chromatic wrote: > > > Perl 6 PR has to be fixed by people whose primary itch is Perl 6. > > The fact that they don't make me assume that they're busy people. > The problem with the common people standing up and saying, "Enough! We don't want the ivory tower, we want bread and cheese!", is that the academics, or politicians, or people at the top, can pour scorn on the lowly crowd with such veracity that it becomes hard to breathe. Obviously we need development and change doesn't always come easily, or without pain, but it seems to me that the left hand is not listening to the right. Look - this seems to be a division of 2 major camps, and really we all want more or less the same thing - for Perl to continue and for Perl to succeed, in whatever form, I think. The problem here is that there are a whole group of people who feel their work is completely unrelated to the perl 6 experiment, and that to say anything about it, which could be regarded in any way as negative, will just result in the powers-that-be spitting on them from a great height. I think it's fairly sad really, for a language which is such fun to use to have such vitriol boiling amongst us. Then again, perhaps it's ok really, perhaps it just means we all love our work, and our hobbies, so much so that we're even prepared to risk social censure to try to save it? Or is that just my age showing ?-) -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/ ps. Please resend any bounced or unanswered emails.