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Re: Future Perl development

From:
Thomas Fjellstrom
Date:
February 5, 2007 13:28
Subject:
Re: Future Perl development
Message ID:
200702051427.54479.tfjellstrom@gmail.com
On Monday 05 February 2007 10:52 am, mark@mark.mielke.cc wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:36:48AM -0800, Peter Scott wrote:
> > The main failing of Perl 6 development may be that it has not enrolled
> > the assistance of some key people in the Perl 5 world, or sustained their
> > interest over 6.5 years of development.  Leading to a Catch-22 of the
> > people left in P6 development wondering when they're going to get help
> > and the people on the outside wondering when they're going to get a P6 to
> > help with.  I do think that Perl 6 could use some of their "enough
> > already, let's get something out there" energy.
>
> I've felt a lot of Perl 6 apathy since Perl 6 was first announced as a
> project.
>
> In my opinion, Perl 5 has been great as it evolved out of a common
> need in a niche where few acceptable alternatives existed. It captured
> the imagination of many capable and motivated people.
>
> Perl 6 is taking a different route, in my opinion. I don't see it as
> evolving from a common need. It seems to have reverted to the ivory
> tower theorizing that has damned many other languages to obscurity.
> Perl 5 already satisfies the needs of most of us. We don't need Perl 6.
> Perl 6 is some sort of fantastic wet dream. :-)

Sorta, but seemingly usable (at least once the full language is 
implemented :D).

> The space Perl 6 is competing in, has other acceptable alternatives
> already out. Java, C#, Python, and Ruby are probably the most well
> recognized.

I would dispute that claim. Ruby is super slow, Python isn't much better (and 
never will be), and imo, Java is a totally different beast. C# is sorta 
similar if you consider Perl6 will likely run on Parrot which is similar to 
the .NET CLR, yet different. Otherwise, Perl6 is its own beast, which I hope 
to play with soon.

> I would need a reason to switch to Perl 6. I don't see one yet.

I personally love the new grammar for parsing, the new OO infrastructure, and 
having proper continuations and coroutines. each of which alone are enough 
for me to switch, but all three together? :o makes me drool.

That said,
> Go Perl 5! Stay rock solid!

I totally agree. P5 shouldn't take a back seat. Let it grow as it needs. :) 
I've been using perl5 for 8 years now, and I'd hate to see the first /love/ 
of my programming life die.

> Cheers,
> mark
>
> P.S. I've kept this message applicable by showing my support for Perl 5.
> :-)

;)

-- 
Thomas Fjellstrom
tfjellstrom@gmail.com



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