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Re: Its time we set the score straight on Perl 5 and Perl 6 and debunk our own self generated FUD.

Adam Kennedy
June 17, 2006 01:38
Re: Its time we set the score straight on Perl 5 and Perl 6 and debunk our own self generated FUD.
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Richard Foley wrote:
> On Saturday 17 June 2006 08:40, Adam Kennedy wrote:
>>> It's all in the environment. Adam mentions App::GUI::Notepad but this
>>> depends on perlWx, which is usually not present and far from easy to
>>> install. Other applications need databases.
>> You might be surprised to learn how close to being no longer true this 
>> is. Once the next release of WxPerl is out, 
> When is this likely to be?  The website says last major release was November 
> 2005 (8 months ago).

You can try out the following now

1. Install Vanilla Perl
2. Install Wx 0.49_06 (current devel version)
3. > cpan App::GUI::Notepad

There are some bugs being worked on in Alien::WxWidgets still, but I 
imagine that as soon as Mattias is happy with everything, he'll toggle 
the Wx version over to 0.50.

> Sounds good - if that works on Unix, Linux and Mac, and if that can include 
> something like SQLite for the db, then that is sounding very promising 
> indeed.  A simple install is underestimated by we programmers for end-users - 
> the people who pay the bills...

Indeed. In fact, I've been trying to collect information on this, and 
from the one example of a formal study that I do have, it showed that 
the ease of procurement (i.e. installation etc) was TWICE as important 
as the technical quality of the product itself.

> The question though at the back of everyone's mind might be: will this go the 
> same way as PerlTK?  I mean by that, PTK was fantastic, with Nick I-S putting 
> an awsome amount of work into it, but in the end it wasn't supported 
> continually on all 3 major platforms, so it became sort of side-lined to the 
> point where you can use it on *nix but not easily anywhere else (please 
> correct me if I'm wrong here).  Now we have wxPerl at what looks like a 
> mature stage, and can we learn from history and ensure it survives long 
> enough to build up a solid core of users?

I guess that comes down to the author. If the Perl TK author has 
abandoned (for some definition thereof) Windows and Mac, then I can only 
suggest trying to help out with it.

Additionally, I think Wx, because it at least uses the native GUI 
toolkit, will be more likely to stay maintained.

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