Richard Foley wrote: > On Saturday 17 June 2006 08:40, Adam Kennedy wrote: >>> It's all in the environment. Adam mentions App::GUI::Notepad but this >>> depends on perlWx, which is usually not present and far from easy to >>> install. Other applications need databases. >> You might be surprised to learn how close to being no longer true this >> is. Once the next release of WxPerl is out, >> > When is this likely to be? The website says last major release was November > 2005 (8 months ago). You can try out the following now 1. Install Vanilla Perl 2. Install Wx 0.49_06 (current devel version) 3. > cpan App::GUI::Notepad There are some bugs being worked on in Alien::WxWidgets still, but I imagine that as soon as Mattias is happy with everything, he'll toggle the Wx version over to 0.50. > Sounds good - if that works on Unix, Linux and Mac, and if that can include > something like SQLite for the db, then that is sounding very promising > indeed. A simple install is underestimated by we programmers for end-users - > the people who pay the bills... Indeed. In fact, I've been trying to collect information on this, and from the one example of a formal study that I do have, it showed that the ease of procurement (i.e. installation etc) was TWICE as important as the technical quality of the product itself. > The question though at the back of everyone's mind might be: will this go the > same way as PerlTK? I mean by that, PTK was fantastic, with Nick I-S putting > an awsome amount of work into it, but in the end it wasn't supported > continually on all 3 major platforms, so it became sort of side-lined to the > point where you can use it on *nix but not easily anywhere else (please > correct me if I'm wrong here). Now we have wxPerl at what looks like a > mature stage, and can we learn from history and ensure it survives long > enough to build up a solid core of users? I guess that comes down to the author. If the Perl TK author has abandoned (for some definition thereof) Windows and Mac, then I can only suggest trying to help out with it. Additionally, I think Wx, because it at least uses the native GUI toolkit, will be more likely to stay maintained. Adam K