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On Jun 16, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Johan Vromans wrote: > Sherm Pendley <sherm@dot-app.org> writes: > >> On Jun 16, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Adam Kennedy wrote: >> >>> Perl has always sucked at desktop applications, mostly because we >>> can't deliver applications in the same way we do regular things. >> >> I'm not sure who you're referring to with that "we", but CamelBones >> users have been able to do precisely that on the Mac for a couple of >> years now. Windows and Linux are still catching up - as usual. :-) Well, first of all, please keep the smiley in mind - I was objecting (and not very strongly) to the "always" and "we can't" parts of Adam's message. The level of suckage varies, and some of us *can* produce nice GUI apps, albeit for a single platform. > It's all in the environment. Adam mentions App::GUI::Notepad but this > depends on perlWx, which is usually not present and far from easy to > install. Other applications need databases. CamelBones solves both of those issues. For the end user, installing a CB app (which can include any number of CPAN modules, including DBD::*) is a matter of drag-and-drop. No installer, no external dependencies, no muss, no fuss. > If the 'standard environment' would always provide a decent GUI and > database it would be much easier to create out-of-the-box > applications. Unfortunately, in the perl world, this is not yet the > case. I have yet to see the language for which that *is* the case. Frankly, I don't think I ever will - I think "one size fits all" is a pipe dream when it comes to GUI kits. I've seen lots of attempts, most of which are successful to varying degrees at providing a consistent cross-platform programming API. But every last one falls flat when it comes to adopting the "native" UI standards when running on each target platform - Java, I'm looking at you now. As doubtful as I am, though, I never say "never" - If yours is the kit that pulls it off, I'll be first in line to congratulate you for it. Given the number of people who have tried and failed, it's obviously a very difficult thing to get right. sherm-- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org