>>>>> "Shlomi" == Shlomi Fish <shlomif@vipe.technion.ac.il> writes: Shlomi> My point is that the perl*.pod pages should be suitable for a Shlomi> large part of our demographic. AND THEY ARE! You really don't know of what you speak. The core audience of Perl is programmers and sysadmins who know Unix and have smatterings of other languages under their belt, like C, and because of Perl's origin, are also fluent in English. Please read my other posting on this. You just don't get it, do you? Shlomi> Of course, all of this would have been much easier if Shlomi> "Programming Perl" was available online for free. Frankly, other than some editing, there's not a heckuva lot that's in Programming Perl now that isn't already online. In fact, there are clearly more tutorials and quickstarts in perl*.pod than there is in Programming Perl now! Shlomi> There are already some replacements for "Learning Perl" (like Shlomi> Simon Cozens' book) online. Why must *everything* be free? Maybe you don't realize that even with the wonderful sales of the books I've been involved in, the return has never been greater than a bit better than minimum wage when you count the hundreds of hours that go in to making a quality book. Shlomi - you disrespect the very people that you want to entice into a different behavior. The core docs (free!) meet the needs of the core audience. When that's not enough, online communities fill in the gaps. When there's a market demand for more than that, commercial entities have stepped in to help. Where is the failure you keep noting? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!