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Re: 5.8.2 and 5.8.n binary compatibility

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From:
Stas Bekman
Date:
November 4, 2003 01:22
Subject:
Re: 5.8.2 and 5.8.n binary compatibility
Message ID:
3FA76FED.1060407@stason.org
Alan Burlison wrote:
> Stas Bekman wrote:
> 
>> Alan, your worries have been accounted for. This is precisely the 
>> reason I wanted to have a test that mounts an attack on stashes. So we 
>> now test that mod_perl 2.0 works just fine if and when such attack 
>> happens. Notice that I talk only about stashes, since that's where the 
>> black magic overlaps with mod_perl functionality. All other hashes in 
>> the "user" space should have no effect on mod_perl.
>>
>> It just proves again how important is to write tests before you start 
>> solving a problem. We saw mod_perl 2.0 goes broken immediately after 
>> plan C was implemented. Though once Nick changed the threshold for 
>> rehashing from 4 to 14 the breakage has disappeared, because the 
>> normal tests didn't happen to trigger it (that's where your worry 
>> kicks in). Now that we have a specific test that mounts the attack and 
>> it verifies that the attack was successful (to prevent cases of future 
>> changes in the rehashing algorithm) we are covered 100%. If we didn't 
>> have this test you indeed would have seen random failures reported by 
>> users some time later.
> 
> 
> Thanks Stas, now I feel all warm and cozy ;-)

;)

>> I doubt that plan C affects any other projects, that don't mess with 
>> hashing internals like mod_perl does, any different that they get 
>> affected by changes in 5.8.1. So if Tk and DBI did fine with 5.8.1 
>> they will do just as fine with 5.8.2 (assuming of course that they 
>> don't mimic mod_perl ;)
> 
> 
> Nice job BTW, you and Nick deserve a lot of thanks for all the effort 
> you have put in to nail this.

Nick is the one who nailed it down. I was just testing, asking lots of silly 
questions and trying to make perl emulate U32 logic ;)

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