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This Week on perl5-porters (20-26 October 2003)

From:
Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Date:
October 27, 2003 04:52
Subject:
This Week on perl5-porters (20-26 October 2003)
Message ID:
20031027135120.7d93558b.rgarciasuarez@free.fr
This Week on perl5-porters (20-26 October 2003)
  This week, several threads raised concerns with tainting. Plan C for
  randomized hashes was successful. The language issues with constant
  subroutines were discussed. Bugs were found, some of which were fixed ;
  some others were dismissed as "features". Quite an usual week for the
  Perl 5 porters.

Taint propagation
  Nicholas Clark files bug #24248, about tainting not being propagated
  properly. This is a regression in perl 5.8.1, that wasn't spotted by the
  regression tests. He provides a code example where $1 ends up being
  tainted, but where a copy of $1 looses tainting. Rick Delaney follows up
  with some questions, regarding the precise interpretation of perlsec,
  where it's asserted that "the presence of tainted data anywhere within
  an expression renders the entire expression tainted".

      http://xrl.us/yud

  Besides this, Rafael added a test.taintwarn target to perl's makefile,
  to run perl's test suite with taint warnings enabled. At a glance, lots
  of tests break, but that's due to the additional warnings being reported
  where they're not expected.

Constant subroutines
  Bug #24250 started a long thread. It describes that a closure of the
  form :

      sub () { $count; }

  where $count is a lexical variable, doesn't behave "properly", i.e. not
  as if the body of the closure included an explicit "return" statement.
  Dave Mitchell explains that perl turned this closure in a constant
  subroutine (due to the empty prototype). This happens since perl 5.8.0,
  and is considered as feature, although an undocumented and surprising
  one. It's actually used in the "constant" module.

  At some point, Dave proposed to introduce a ":constant" subroutine
  attribute, the current constant subroutine syntax feeling like a
  non-intuitive language hack, that should be deprecated.

      http://xrl.us/yue

Threads and memory leakage
  Jack Steadman reported in perl 5.8.1 a case of memory leak related to
  threads (bug #24255), which was undiscovered until now. It was fixed by
  Dave Mitchell ; but Jack then posted another example causing another
  kind of leak.

      http://xrl.us/yuf

if's version
  The CPAN currently holds the version 0.01000001 of the "if" pragma,
  while the core comes with version 0.03. Autrijus Tang asked Ilya
  Zakharevich to release an updated version, because the CPAN version has
  bugs : it cannot deal with the "open" pragma for example. This led to a
  discussion about proper version numbering and backward compatibility for
  dual-lived perl modules.

      http://xrl.us/yug

The :raw layer
  Gisle Aas asks why the statement

      open my $fh, "<:raw", \$scalar

  always fails. Rafael begins to explain that ":raw" pops off other
  layers, but it turns out that a more subtle bug is occurring here.

      http://xrl.us/yuh

Removing magic from %ENV
  Ton Hospel reported (bug #24291) that aliasing the ENV glob makes %ENV
  lose magic : thus assigning to an %ENV key doesn't alter the program's
  environment.

  Rafael says that it's to be expected. (However, perl didn't handle this
  case gracefully, producing random coredumps. This was later fixed by
  Rafael.) But the potential security hole remains : taint checks are done
  against the contents of %ENV, not against the actual environment
  variables, which are different when %ENV is aliased to another variable.
  A solution is to forbid using an aliased %ENV when taint checks are
  enabled.

      http://xrl.us/yu3

In brief
  Perl 5.8.1's binary compatibility issue has been solved by Nicholas.
  (The fix is now part of Debian unstable.) Perl 5.8.2-to be now is able
  to switch internally hashing algorithms when a hash grows too large not
  uniformly.

  Jos Boumans posted a program that uses the CPANPLUS API to detect which
  core modules are outdated in respect to their CPAN versions.

      http://xrl.us/yui

  Steve Hay asks for a way to know, from a perl program, to know whether
  the used perl has been built with -DDEBUGGING.

      http://xrl.us/yuj

  Ton Hospel produces an "Attempt to free unreferenced scalar" in 22
  characters. (Bug #24254.)

  Steve Grazzini reports that if you use @& before $& in a Perl program
  with perl 5.8, then $& loses its magic. This used to work correctly, but
  the old behaviour was to set PL_sawampersand (and its performance
  penalties) unnecessarily. (Bug #24237.)

  Uri Guttman proposed to include File::Slurp (or a module with a similar
  functionality) into the core. Several people liked the idea, (some of
  which had concerns with the API or the module name), others felt that it
  was not meeting the criteria to become a core module (the core being
  already bloated enough.)

  Robert Spier introduces metabugs to the crew :

      http://xrl.us/yuc

  *Last minute* : Hugo released perl 5.9.0, the first development version
  after 5.8.0.

About this summary
  This week was summarized by Rafael Garcia-Suarez. Summaries are
  published weekly on http://use.perl.org/ and on a mailing list, which
  subscription address is perl5-summary-subscribe@perl.org. Corrections,
  comments, etc. are welcome.



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