If you want to listen to someone who isn't me, please listen to Ton :-) I won't have time to say much else today. Andrew On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 02:16:11PM +0000, Ton Hospel wrote: > Maybe I'm just missing the point here, but having functions that > expose the internals seems to me the completely wrong way to > handle the "how many octets is this utf8 encoded string". [snip]