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Re: [ mail problems update]

Ask Bjoern Hansen
November 7, 2000 12:48
Re: [ mail problems update]
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:

Hi Craig,

I am the postmaster at

Whoever it is who are bouncing your messages on to p5p and vmsperl
are doing so with the original envelope sender. You were subscribed
to vmsperl (and thus allowed to post) and you were allowed to post
to perl5-porters because a moderator previously had approved your

As soon as I found out about the funk going on I stopped the qmail
sender, disallowed your address from those two lists and I am
currently working on cleaning up the queue. (there are like A LOT of
messages left. Yikes!). The first few hundred was nothing of what is
still undelivered (thousands of mails).

We are lucky that tmtowtdi isn't that fast at delivering mail after
all. %-)

 - ask

> ----- Forwarded message from "Craig A. Berry" <> -----
> Received: from ( [])
> 	by (8.11.0/8.11.0/HappyFunMail) with ESMTP id eA7JwYJ18504
> 	for <>; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:58:35 -0600 (CST)
> Received: from ( [])
> 	by (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00436
> 	for <>; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:58:24 +0200 (EET)
> Received: from ([])
> 	by (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA04712
> 	for <>; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:58:22 +0200 (EET)
> Received: from by (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:01:05 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
> Received: from ([]) by with ESMTP;
>           Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:55:30 -0600
> Message-Id: <>
> X-Sender:
> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2
> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:01:01 -0600
> To:,,,
> From: "Craig A. Berry" <>
> Subject: mail problems update
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> To those who have written about the repeated message, I understand (and 
> share) your frustration.  All instances of the message except the very first 
> have a message id containing "", so I suspect there is a mail 
> agent gone haywire or perhaps a virus somewhere in that domain (which is not 
> my domain and not one I have access to).  Since I am not the cause of the 
> repetition and am not the sender of any message except the very first 
> instance, there is little I can do on my own to resolve the problem.  The 
> mail headers also have very little detail left in them by the time they get 
> through the mailing list, so I'm afraid I can't be of significant help in 
> pinpointing the origin of the repeated messages.
> This does not seem to be going away on its own, so I'm including a few 
> prominent members of the Perl community in this message in hopes someone can 
> take steps to protect the mailing lists (in case they are not doing 
> so already); I'm afraid I don't know who has list management privileges to 
> p5p and vmsperl.  If it's possible to simply block and 
> that seems the thing to do.  I've also written John Peacock 
> with a heads up; he is the only person I find in the archives who has posted 
> from  
> In case it's not obvious by now, I had no intention of starting this 
> avalanche and I know this has gone beyond the mere inconvenience stage, 
> especially for those who pay for bandwidth by the minute or byte.  Thanks to 
> those who have given me a friendly heads up, and to those who have flamed me 
> I know how you feel.  Please let's exercise discipline and not discuss this 
> problem on-list as that would only make things worse.
> If there is anything I can do to help fix this, please let me know.
> ----- End forwarded message -----

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