the internet is a big pile of garbage right now. :-) looks like sprintlink.net is down - i can't reach A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET here is a trace for www.activestate.com - tried from my network and then from austrailia. traceroute to www1.ActiveState.com (199.60.48.51), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 border0.mel.vic.ispau.net (203.36.3.31) 83.022 ms 5.965 ms 1.746 ms 2 Serial5-0.lon8.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.7.113) 1327.993 ms 536.973 ms 640.009 ms --snip -- 12 POS2-3.GW6.SFO4.ALTER.NET (157.130.197.77) 643.487 ms * * 13 504.ATM3-0.XR2.SFO4.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.38) 654.964 ms 1550.164 ms 885.252 ms 14 191.at-1-0-0.TR4.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.49.10) 1176.991 ms 870.376 ms 1132.481 ms 15 107.ATM6-0.TR2.VAN1.ALTER.NET (152.63.10.90) 1147.088 ms 1077.219 ms 1393.249 ms 16 198.ATM7-0.XR2.VAN1.ALTER.NET (152.63.136.149) 1031.282 ms 725.436 ms * 17 194.ATM7-0.GW2.VAN1.ALTER.NET (152.63.136.253) 1156.405 ms 1169.292 ms * 18 grouptel-gw.CUSTOMER.ALTER.NET (157.130.158.2) 1423.846 ms 1466.841 ms 1308.507 ms 19 * * * 20 216.18.29.213 (216.18.29.213) 891.874 ms 1105.034 ms 1275.404 ms 21 * * * -- snip -- 30 * * * Simon Cozens wrote: > Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes (lists.p5p): > >Anybody else having problems? > > % ping www.activestate.com > PING www1.ActiveState.com (199.60.48.51): 56 data bytes > > --- www1.ActiveState.com ping statistics --- > 11 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > > -- > <boojum> luckily, my toes have no trailing newline characters -- ___cliff rayman___cliff@genwax.com___http://www.genwax.com/