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Re: Ugly little beastie
From: Larry Wall
April 4, 2000 16:13
Re: Ugly little beastie
Message ID: 200004042309.QAA13031@kiev.wall.org
Nick Ing-Simmons writes:
: David Grove <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
: >The Perl 5 Porters group is the closest thing that the Perl Community has to
: >a governing body. To my knowledge, the only person who can overrule them is
: There are parallels with Britsh constitution here - from a century or two
: ago : Larry => monarch, Pumpking => Prime Minister, P5P => House of Lords,
: c.l.p => House of Commons. In the current period of perl history the
: monarch has stopped "running the country" himself and delegated it to
: the Prime Minister who has been nominated by his peers. Monarch retains
: the right of veto, and in practice Prime Minister cannot "get away" with
: anything serious because the other "peers of the realm" would intervene.
: This form of government sufficed to build the Britsh Empire to its height...
: >Like it or not, the group has to act as that governing
: >body, and put a stop to these problems.
: We will when there are problems, right now there are not.
: >I believe very strongly that
: >ActiveState is capable and willing to lead this language and community only
: >to corporate domination, possibly under some misguided belief that Microsoft
: >will help them get there and then miraculously leave them alone to enjoy
: >their dominion. If the porters fail to recognize this, and fail to act
: If the "Duchy of ActiveSates" alliance with the "Holy Redmond Empire" does
: not work out that may be bad for the Duke - but is not fatal to the
: Kingdom of Perl. In the meantime the indirect contribution to the
: nations coffers is of benefit to all the citizens, and having Redmond's
: "priests" educate the masses at their own expense is a good deal.
: > This group is composed of some of the highest "ranking" members of the perl
: >community, none of them willing to take a stand to defend this population
: >from corporate monopolization.
: We will when it happens (or looks like happening come to that).
: >With that rank comes responsibility, the
: >responsibility to care about the community they serve, represent, and are a
: >part of. There is nobody else to bring these issues to. Caring means not
: >allowing something to be corrupted, nurturing it, and all of it rather than
: >just this part or that.
: Sounds like what we do.
Nick is right, David is wrong. Next question?