At 22.14 -0700 2000.04.03, Cliff Rayman wrote: >what is the problem here? The problem is that David Grove hates Microsoft and ActiveState. That is the only problem. David is calling Sarathy a liar and mischaracterizing his statements. He is disregarding Larry entirely, even though he says he idolizes him. He wants us to apologize for thinking he is a silly little troll. But he is. Ignore him. I personally think he should be banned from p5p, because he has done nothing here but attack people and motives with lies and flames. His posts are not worth addressing directly, but people will address them, and it will continually drag down the rest of the list. Almost everything he has said has been false, so please, everyone, killfile him. -- Chris Nandor | pudge@pobox.com | http://pudge.net/ Andover.Net | chris.nandor@andover.net | http://slashcode.com/