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Nick Ing-Simmons
Date:
April 1, 2000 02:03
Subject:
RE: 5.6.0 ready for prime-time?
Message ID:
E12bKlE-0003re-00@mserv1a.u-net.net
David Grove <pete@petes-place.com> writes:
>I'm not expecting perfection in the latest, greatest release of Perl, but I
>do think that the subcommunities that we represent would be better served by
>releasing after a real _public_ beta period, longer than say a month, with
>realistic time given to bring some of the modules up to date... at the very
>least the most important ones on a given platform, like LibWin32 and Tk.

Okay - you mentioned Tk twice now. 
What exactly is your gripe about Tk and perl5.6.0 ?

The only issue that I am aware of with Tk and perl5.6.0 is that 
some long deprecated coding practices (e.g. not declaring the widgets you use)
lead to peculiar error messages due to the ->isa bug.
Tk800.020 fixes that.
(It is worth noting that the 'use base'/->isa bug is a side effect of 
a patch contributed to the mailing list and not anything fundamental
to the newness of 5.6.0 - just lack of test suite coverage and patch
author's lack of knowledge of the side effects.)

>
>I wouldn't say lazy, really, just overworked, tired and with more joy
>hacking and coding than maintaining; 
>especially maintaining something when
>the rug is pulled out from under you. 

No rug was pulled from Tk - Tk is excessively familiar with perl's guts
and despite that extemely minimal changes were required.

>I'm wondering whether the term
>"backwards compatibility" has escaped us.

It is my watchword.

-- 
Nick Ing-Simmons


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