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Re: [ID 20000330.052] Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.)

Dan Sugalski
March 31, 2000 12:44
Re: [ID 20000330.052] Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.)
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At 01:31 PM 3/31/00 -0700, Joseph N. Hall wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:22:35 -0500 (Dan Sugalski) wrote:
>* At 01:01 PM 3/31/00 -0700, Joseph N. Hall wrote:
>* >I doubt that is really a problem for the ages, though.  In the near
>* >future, if not now, caches will be large and/or capable enough that
>* >cache busting really isn't something to design against.  Nevermind
>* >that there is one Perl and a zillion different cache architectures.
>* Ick. No offense but I absolutely loathe that particular attitude. [...]
>* Perl itself is getting slower with each release and that's troublesome.
>* Machines get faster, but data volumes get larger faster. I may be unusual
>* in chugging through runs of 80G of data and 10-20M files at a shot, but not
>* *that* unusual.
>If it's a choice between "faster" and "more useful" in Perl, I'll come
>down on the side of "more useful" just about every time.  That said,
>Perl has more speed and memory "issues" than it seems like it ought to.
>The huge growth in the core from 5.005 to 5.6 without any serious new
>fully-operational functionality is rather disappointing to me.

I'll disagree this time. We've added a lot of functionality (well, sort of) 
to this release, and perl's overdue for a good performance boost. Honestly 
I think a performance and stability work-through should be the primary 
focus for the 5.8 release, with getting the current alpha/experimental 
stuff either working or tossed as a secondary goal. We can add in more 
functionality for 5.9/5.10.

What we really need is three or four people who can work on perl near 
full-time for this, but that's not likely to happen, for economic reasons 
if nothing else. :(


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