>... while talking to mail.perl.com.: >>>> MAIL From:<lvirden@cas.org> ><<< 550 Access denied >554 <perlbug@perl.com>... Service unavailable cas.org was on my old (and revived) list of evil openrelay and/or spamhavens. After the first few hundred pieces of spam at the start of a week, you do something about it. --tomThread Next