On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Mark Mielke wrote: > > 1) MajorDomo you've heard of and are familiar with. Therefore, I > > deduce, you are using it. Thus, it is useful. > > It was useful. Now, anybody with any sense of project management would > never choose it as a mailing list agent BECAUSE it is no longer being > maintained. Ever heard of having too many dependencies? Especially ones > without any sort of guarantee on them? This type of arguement is the chief problem with p5p. Since it is utterly obvious that many people use majordomo, you turn to the idea that anyone who uses it is an idiot. Yes, I know, you didn't say "idiot," but *I'll* be the one to say that anyone with absolutely no sense of project management is an idiot. Being an idiot in no way excludes a person from using Perl. They are still our users, and we have a responsibility to them regardless of what we might think of their usage of Perl. In fact, allowing them to be idiots, that is - not highly literate computer nerds like us - is part of what Perl seems to be about. No use of Perl even a quarter as widespread as majordomo can be ignored or dispensed with as stupid. These are our users and our success is tied directly to their sometimes foolish usage of Perl. -sam