>I know you're some kind of linguistic expert (or at least have had some >training in linguistics), Most of my formal training was in various discrete languages, with only a couple odd classes in general linguistics. Larry's was more the other way around. Polyglot != Linguist, but sometimes one can fake the other. :-) >but I wonder if your analogy is correct? Yes, you can both be the teacher and the learner, the implyer and the inferrer. But that doesn't mean they're interchangeable. Ilya was using "infer" in places that I was pretty sure he meant "imply". I suppose could have read him the wrong way. Wouldn't be the first time. >I'm sure you'll now tell me how I've used the word "beknownst" >inappropriately. Thanks. Although I would have just used "known" in that case, at least in most circumstances, your word is clearly a back-formation from the more commonly heard "unbeknownst", but doesn't show up in my online word list: % grep 'beknow' /usr/dict/words beknow beknown unbeknown unbeknownst And the 'nst$' pattern isn't very common either: % grep 'nst$' /usr/dict/words against anenst canst chanst dunst Ernst forgainst fornenst forninst gainst thereagainst unbeknownst unknownst yinst But I'm not one to get pwittertated about inventful and amusing coinings, because if I did, you'd scold me for the several um, innovations, I placed in the "use foo if bar" analysis, over the querulous objections of my online word list. :-) --tom