None of us ever mentioned the (;$) prototype again, when we started discussing a reftype function... Why does sub foo (;$); print foo $a, $b; whine that foo has too many arguments? This was one issue I meant to discuss, and then got totally involved in the reftype debate. Is this "expected" behavior? -- MIDN 4/C PINYAN, USNR, NROTCURPI jeff pinyan japhy@pobox.com perl stuff japhy+perl@pobox.com CPAN ID: PINYAN http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/id/P/PI/PINYAN/