> And both lack a usable terminal application ;-) (BTW: Is there something > for windows?) I use cygwin with bash. Works just like unix. I do once and a while have a problem with interactive programs (like cpan). The auto flushing isn't working. If I get 512 bytes it comes out but for prompts and commands that isn't workable. There probably is some fix but I haven't found it yet. Of course the cpan for perl cygwin works fine. In a perl program I can set $| on STDOUT but I don't want to mess with programs like ppm and cpan because they work fine with a dos prompt. There is also a bash for win32 but I haven't tried it yet.