David H. Adler [email@example.com] quoth: *> *>Schwern was also at a meeting that day, where he became Kwalatee *>Ashurrance pumpking. Was that a follow up meeting, or the Mug Meeting? *> *>dha, picking at nits (what a shock!) Schwern was not at that meeting as if he had been, I would have listed him :) He was at the later P5P meeting which is where he became the QA guy. e.