Let me just mention this again: all we have to do to let the outdated cpan clients know they are broken is to move/rename/reformat a few files: authors/01mailrc.txt.gz modules/02packages.details.txt.gz modules/03modlist.data.gz Of course, that's going to give a lot of people a bad day because the CPAN client they have won't be able to upgrade[1]. And of course there's probably more than just CPAN(PLUS).pm referencing those. Maybe there's a better place to put the bullet, but I think we've talked about compatibility long enough. Can we start seriously talking about end-of-life'ing the broken stuff, make sure the new versions can self-upgrade, and move on? [1] Unless the indices are stripped-down to include *only* references to the latest CPAN(PLUS) files? Or, maybe just freeze their contents at a given moment? --Eric -- perl -e 'srand; print join(" ",sort({rand() < 0.5} qw(sometimes it is important to be consistent)));' --------------------------------------------------- http://scratchcomputing.com ---------------------------------------------------