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From:
Nicolas Rochelemagne
Date:
June 24, 2020 04:42
Subject:
Re: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs
Message ID:
CAKvG0SQehwDf9dDYAzY11PRXpTVmpPkhk+dHNBAJy5fRyo-pbA@mail.gmail.com
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FYI the videos are going to be available (live stream and on demand) on the
yapcna Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/yapcna

The schedule is available on sched: https://tpc20cic.sched.com
you can set your timezone using the right menu

nicolas

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 3:24 AM Konovalov, Vadim <Vadim.Konovalov@dell.com>
wrote:

> Ok, thanks for the detailed explanations and for the link to the perl
> conference, I will consider joining the even (ticket is permissive, so I=
=E2=80=99m
> 50-50 now =F0=9F=98=8A)
>
>
>
> It was a tendency in ~10 years ago about modernization of perl by adding
> =E2=80=9Cuse strict;=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cuse warnings;=E2=80=9D everywh=
ere.
>
>
>
> Could it be consider modern already, so that it now has these =E2=80=9Cus=
e strict;
> use warnings;=E2=80=9D but does not have webassembly (WebPerl), and also =
deprecated
> threading?
>
>
>
> And warnings.pm is too bloated, to my taste.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Nicolas Rochelemagne <nicolas@rochelemagne.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2020 12:33 AM
> *To:* Konovalov, Vadim
> *Cc:* Nicolas R.; gisle.aas@it.uib.no; module-authors@perl.org
> *Subject:* Re: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs
>
>
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>
> Thanks for your feedback. I trend to agree with you it looks stupid and
> seems to have a very low value by itself at first glance .
>
> Nevertheless I do not see how this can be harmful to enable 'strict and
> warnings' while running unit tests. I think it could help understand issu=
es
> reported by users when trying to install the distribution.
>
>
>
> The Perl community is considering enabling strict and warnings as default
> in the future. As this distribution is shipped with perl itself [dual
> life], making sure the test suite is working correctly with strict and
> warnings, is a first step to make sure we can run the perl testsuite
> without any issues.
>
>
>
> I would recommend you to check the coming "Conference in the Cloud" next
> week to get more details about it.
>
> https://perlconference.us/tpc-2020-cloud/
>
>
>
> Hope this helps you understand the reason for these pull requests.
>
> I would like to understand what are the reasons to not consider such an
> update?
>
>
>
> sincerely
>
> nicolas
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:54 PM Konovalov, Vadim <Vadim.Konovalov@dell.co=
m>
> wrote:
>
> The =E2=80=9C*Enable strict and warnings on all tests*
> <https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pull/8>=E2=80=9D is soo stupid
>
>
>
> It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod
>
>
>
> *From:* Nicolas R. <nicolas@atoomic.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM
> *To:* gisle.aas@it.uib.no
> *Cc:* module-authors@perl.org
> *Subject:* Mime-Base64 Pending PRs
>
>
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>
> Hi Gisle, I've submitted a few extra Pull Requests to Mime-Base64 today
> and realized that I've some PRs opened since 2017 that have no feedbacks.
>
>
>
> https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls
>
>
>
> I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance of Mime-Base64.
>
> If so I would gladly take co-maint on the module and help releasing
> updates.
>
>
>
> Please let me know
>
>
>
> sincerely
>
> nicolas
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">FYI the videos are going to be available (live stream and =
on demand) on the yapcna=C2=A0Youtube=C2=A0channel:<div><a href=3D"https://=
www.youtube.com/yapcna">https://www.youtube.com/yapcna</a><div><div><br></d=
iv><div>The schedule is available on sched:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://tpc20ci=
c.sched.com">https://tpc20cic.sched.com</a></div><div>you can set your time=
zone using the right menu</div><div><br></div></div></div><div>nicolas</div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 3:24 AM Konovalov, Vadim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Vad=
im.Konovalov@dell.com">Vadim.Konovalov@dell.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_6173336234182113426WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ok, thanks for the detailed explanations and for the=
 link to the perl conference, I will consider joining the even (ticket is p=
ermissive, so I=E2=80=99m 50-50 now
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;,sans-serif">=F0=9F=98=
=8A</span>)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It was a tendency in ~10 years ago about modernizati=
on of perl by adding =E2=80=9Cuse strict;=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cuse warning=
s;=E2=80=9D everywhere.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Could it be consider modern already, so that it now =
has these =E2=80=9Cuse strict; use warnings;=E2=80=9D but does not have web=
assembly (WebPerl), and also deprecated threading?
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">And <a href=3D"http://warnings.pm" target=3D"_blank"=
>warnings.pm</a> is too bloated, to my taste.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"FR">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"F=
R"> Nicolas Rochelemagne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nicolas@rochelemagne.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">nicolas@rochelemagne.com</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 21, 2020 12:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Konovalov, Vadim<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nicolas R.; <a href=3D"mailto:gisle.aas@it.uib.no" target=3D"_bl=
ank">gisle.aas@it.uib.no</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:module-authors@perl.org" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">module-authors@perl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(206,17,38)">[EXTERNAL EMAIL] <u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for your feedback. I trend to agree with you =
it looks stupid and seems to have a very low value by itself at first glanc=
e .<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nevertheless I do not see how this can be harmful to=
 enable &#39;strict and warnings&#39; while running unit tests. I think it =
could help understand issues reported by users when trying to install the=
=C2=A0distribution.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Perl community is considering enabling strict an=
d warnings as default in the future. As this distribution is shipped with p=
erl itself [dual life], making sure the test suite is working correctly wit=
h strict and warnings, is a first
 step to make sure we can run the perl testsuite without any issues.<u></u>=
<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would recommend you=C2=A0to check the coming &quot=
;Conference in the Cloud&quot; next week to get more details about it.<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://perlconference.us/tpc-2020-cloud/=
" target=3D"_blank">https://perlconference.us/tpc-2020-cloud/</a><u></u><u>=
</u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hope this helps you understand the reason for these =
pull requests.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would like to understand what are the reasons to n=
ot consider such an update?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">sincerely<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">nicolas<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:54 PM Konovalov, Vadim &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:Vadim.Konovalov@dell.com" target=3D"_blank">Vadim.Konova=
lov@dell.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The =E2=80=9C<a href=3D"https://github.com/gisle/mim=
e-base64/pull/8" target=3D"_blank"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(36,41,46)">Enable strict and=
 warnings
 on all tests</span></b></a>=E2=80=9D is soo stupid<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod<u></=
u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"FR">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"F=
R"> Nicolas R. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nicolas@atoomic.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>nicolas@atoomic.org</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:gisle.aas@it.uib.no" target=3D"_blank">gisle.a=
as@it.uib.no</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:module-authors@perl.org" target=3D"_blank">mod=
ule-authors@perl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Mime-Base64 Pending PRs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(206,17,38)">[EXTERNAL EMAIL] </span><u></u><u><=
/u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi=C2=A0Gisle, I&#39;ve submitted a few extra Pull R=
equests to Mime-Base64 today and realized that I&#39;ve some PRs opened sin=
ce 2017 that have no feedbacks.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pull=
s" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls</a><u></u><=
u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance=
 of Mime-Base64.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If so I would gladly=C2=A0take co-maint on the modul=
e and help releasing updates.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please let me know<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">sincerely<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">nicolas<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>

</blockquote></div>

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