I've sent subscribe requests for both -language and -internals twice (each), and several hours ago sent a "lists" request to majordomo@perl.org. I've not gotten a response to any of them. Randy -- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Randy J. Ray | "NSA doesn't need a key to compromise security in rjray@redhat.com | Windows. Programs like Back Orifice can do it without 415-777-9810 x246 | any keys." --Bruce Schneier on the MS/NSA controversyThread Next