On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Tim Bunce wrote: > > > > (Guidelines @ http://dev.apache.org/guidelines.html) > > > > > > It makes interesting reading. Can anyone here with experience on the > > > 'inside' of the Apache process comment on it's effectiveness? > > > > The document is sorta outdadted, but on the rough lines it's close > > enough. I think that it works very well. But it's on much smaller > > and much more targeted project than Perl6. While it's still a busy > > mailinglist it's not more than it's possibly to follow everything > > and there is usually not more than a handful (very) active > > committers at any given time. > > > > We would still need some subgroups to give more people a chance of > > being involved and keep theirsanity at the same time as Dan keeps > > mentioning. > > I think the key point was in relation to conflict resolution prodecures. > Goy any observations of how that's worked in practice? From what I see it works better than it used to on p5p. I think it's mostly because they have more of an "okay, that's what the vote/majority/consensus told us or that was the only implementation we got and it's better than what we had before - so get over it and move on" attitude. Fewer people. And fewer complex choices in the project (there is plenty of hard choices in the apache project, but it's still "only" a webserver and not something as big and flexible as a programming language). Thinking about it, the voting/veto system and the thing with giving authority to members/committers are probably a significant part of what gives the attitude for "okay, it's decided. stop beating the horse, it's dead. so let's move on." okay, I'm repeating myself now. Time to sleep. :) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>