While I agree that Dick Hardt would probably do an excellent job as Customer Relations, he is also inextricably linked to ActiveState Tool Corp. My fear is that Dick, as the "official" Customer Relations contact - and therefore ActiveState, would be given an unwritten endorsement as the 'official' (although not truly so) Perl Support Company. This would essentially give ActiveState an unfair competitive advantage over other support and consultant groups when it comes to attracting new clientele and retaining current clients. I've no bones to pick with either Dick or ActiveState, I'm simply looking out for other commercial entities long-term well being. What I might suggest as a good solution is to appoint a neutral party as the Customer Relations person - whereby companies such as ActiveState and other support/consultant groups can filter their client's requests and ideas through to the development team. Then again, it was decision of the closed-door group, so I may well be wasting ASCII here. --a-musedThread Next