All you've done is push the decision making off to the working group. But those groups have to end up with a final report. Think of having **** and *** on the same working group. Do you think anything will come of it. Some items are so closely split (I didn't mention |||) and so vehement that coming to a final decision is difficult or impossible. Voting is unlikely to come to a good conclusion. Unless the weight is sufficiently on one side, all parties come away badly. So if voting is difficult, we need to replace it with a final authority. We have Larry, but quite a number of times, we requested a Rule #1 ruling but it didn't seem to be issued. Some mechanism, should be offered up as a starting point for the community. My personal preference would be Larry as final arbitrator, but if he isn't available or isn't willing to constantly babysit the community, then we need folks that can think somewhat like Larry. What's in the best interest of Perl and its community (as diverse as it is.) I think the past and present pumpkings are a well selected lot. They should have a next-to-final say in all decisions/appeals. <chaim> >>>>> "CN" == Chris Nandor <pudge@pobox.com> writes: CN> As I see it, voting could serve two purposes: an advisory role, or a CN> decision-making role. The latter seems unreasonable; this is why we have CN> the pumpkings and working groups. The former seems subuseful; this is why CN> we have the pumpkings and working groups. :-) CN> I suppose it can't hurt anything as long as we don't take the voting too CN> seriously; but if we aren't going to take it too seriously, what's the CN> point? If we do take it too seriously, it seems to me that it will harm CN> more than help. "We voted on such-and-such but so-and-so is doing CN> something else instead." Opinions are fine, but I think that a written CN> proposal and discussion is more useful than a count of who likes what. I'd CN> rather just see interested parties come up with working groups they'd like CN> to have, as many as they want, and let the perl6-poobahs (or whoever is CN> selected by them to perform this task) approve or veto each. -- Chaim Frenkel Nonlinear Knowledge, Inc. chaimf@pobox.com +1-718-236-0183Thread Previous | Thread Next