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From:
Mark
Date:
August 18, 2009 13:29
Subject:
Re: A side note [was Re: Attentipn Please!! Need A Perl script to yada yada]
Message ID:
CA7C974F927E409A91BEAC6A1226A806@nome890c43da72
Hello,
There is always a better way to do things. That is what makes life 
interesting.
I think any contributions from anybody should be appreciated.

Regards Mark




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Telemachus" <telemachus@arpinum.org>
To: <beginners@perl.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:40 PM
Subject: A side note [was Re: Attentipn Please!! Need A Perl script to yada 
yada]


> On Mon Aug 17 2009 @  4:09, Uri Guttman wrote:
>> >>>>> "I" == Ian  <pcs305@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>   I> Unfortunately I'm not an expert. I just read a few books and this 
>> list etc.
>>
>> a couple of things. it is good that you are offering to help but as you
>> claim not to be an expert, it can hurt more than help. there are plenty
>> of experts on this list who can help and fixing up weak code offered
>> from beginners makes our work even harder.
>
> This has come up before, as I recall, but either way, I have to disagree.
> There are a LOT of us here who are far less than expert, but more than
> novice users. I don't agree that we shouldn't offer our (presumably less
> than expert) code. If anything, it can be a good way for us to learn as
> well.
>
> To clarify, I think anyone (expert or otherwise) should only offer code
> that they feel good about. If you have no idea how to tackle a problem,
> then it would be unhelpful to spew out some random code. On the other 
> hand,
> your response seems to go too far in the other direction (advice and 
> ideas,
> sure, but no code except from experts).
>
> One other thing worth saying: Ian seems to me to display the habit that a
> lot of first-time (or rare) posters do of over-apologizing for an answer. 
> I
> do it myself here and on other forums, and I see it in my students all the
> time. It's a pretty natural way to try to deflect potential criticism.
> (Well, I'm not really sure, this is probably wrong, but...) I mention this
> because we shouldn't let it prejudice us against the answer. Again, I 
> think
> there's room for non-experts, even in code.
>
> Just my two cents, T
> 


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