perl.macperl.porters http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/ ... Copyright 1998-2014 perl.org Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:39:18 +0000 ask@perl.org MacOSX Testers: Please test the new SDL perl Mac Launcher by Kartik Thakore use local::lib<br/><br/>You will need X11 headers (from XCode) to compile from scratch<br/><br/>cpan Alien::SDL<br/>wget http://github.com/kthakore/SDL_perl/tarball/mac_launcher<br/><br/>extract<br/><br/>perl Build.PL<br/>perl Build<br/>perl Build bundle<br/>SDLPerl.app/Contents/MacOS/SDLPerl test/checkkeys.pl<br/><br/>or get shooter from here http://gist.github.com/301949 (click the balls to<br/>continue).<br/><br/>As I don&#39;t have a mac I was hoping you porters can help me with some issues.<br/><br/>How to have SDLPerl.app installed so mac users can use it after perl Build<br/>install?<br/><br/>How do I properly call perl Build test with SDLPerl.app? (see the mess in<br/>inc/My/Builder/Darwin.pm)<br/><br/>How do I get SDLPerl to compile with a symbol table so I can debug crashes<br/>like<br/><br/>SDLPerl.app/Contents/MacOS/SDLPerl examples/sols/ch02.pl<br/><br/>Regards,<br/><br/>kthakore<br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2010/06/msg1341.html Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:59:32 +0000 Re: [MacPerl-Porters] P.S.: Could somebody please test this in order for me to fix a bug in Bit::Vector? (update) by Joshua Juran On Aug 24, 2009, at 5:36 AM, O. STeffen BEYer wrote:<br/><br/>&gt; P.S.: Anyone with Perl v5.8.6 on a PowerPC G5 Mac Os X v10.4.11?<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; The original bug report reads:<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; &quot;I tried to install your module Bit::Vector 6.6 (perl v5.8.6 on a <br/>&gt; PowerPC<br/>&gt; G5 Mac Os X v10.4.11) but it failed the test &#39;28___chunklist.t&#39;.<br/><br/>In that case you&#39;re posting to the wrong list. This list is for <br/>discussions of MacPerl, a port of perl highly modified to run on the <br/>Mac platform prior to OS X. Since MacPerl hasn&#39;t been released since <br/>5.6.2, the bug report can&#39;t possibly be referring to it.<br/><br/>Josh<br/><br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2009/08/msg1340.html Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:26:04 +0000 P.S.: Could somebody please test this in order for me to fix a bug in Bit::Vector? (update) by O. STeffen BEYer P.S.: Anyone with Perl v5.8.6 on a PowerPC G5 Mac Os X v10.4.11?<br/><br/>The original bug report reads:<br/><br/>&quot;I tried to install your module Bit::Vector 6.6 (perl v5.8.6 on a PowerPC<br/>G5 Mac Os X v10.4.11) but it failed the test &#39;28___chunklist.t&#39;.<br/><br/>I ran the test outside of Test::Harness, and found it is failing on<br/>the final value of $bits (=33) at $n=97 and $n=99.&quot;<br/><br/>The number of bits he indicated is corroborated by the number of tests,<br/>which is 3 * bits. Normally there would only be 96 tests on a 32 bit<br/>machine.<br/><br/>As far as I can remember, I already heard in the past that the Mac was<br/>simulating on more bit when doing bit shift operations (or always regarded<br/>the carry as a additional bit).<br/>Or am I hallucinating this memory?<br/><br/>Paul Schinder just ran the test scripts I sent and everything went fine.<br/><br/>So the results may depend on the version of MacOS or the compiler used.<br/><br/>Thanks a lot for your support!<br/><br/>Best regards,<br/>Steffen<br/><br/><br/>2009/8/24 O. STeffen BEYer &lt;ostbey@gmail.com&gt;<br/><br/>&gt; Dear MacPerl Porters,<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; could somebody of you please run the two little scripts &quot;bits.pl&quot; and<br/>&gt; &quot;bits.c&quot; (compile first of course) attached here on a Mac with MacOS X<br/>&gt; (Darwin)?<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; Somebody reported that two tests in &quot;t/28___chunklist.t&quot; failed on his<br/>&gt; Darwin machine; it turned out that BitVector_Boot() had determined the type<br/>&gt; &quot;unsigned long&quot; to have a size of 33 bits, which is of course odd.<br/>&gt; Apparently 33 bits is not correct and consequently, bits get lost when the<br/>&gt; module expects 33 bits to be passed in each chunk of data.<br/>&gt; I suspect the routine to count the number of bits is somehow fooled under<br/>&gt; Darwin and would like to find out why it was so, and how it should be<br/>&gt; calculated correctly.<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; Please send back the output (STDOUT) of both bits.pl and bits.c to me -<br/>&gt; thank you very much in advance!<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; You can also test the attached release candidate Bit::Vector 7.0 to see if<br/>&gt; it passes all tests.<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; I really would like to release this candidate as soon as possible, because<br/>&gt; I have two other modules depending on it with bugfixes waiting to be<br/>&gt; released as well.<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; Thank you for any help!<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; Best regards,<br/>&gt; Steffen Beyer<br/>&gt;<br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2009/08/msg1339.html Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:02:21 +0000 Could somebody please test this in order for me to fix a bug in Bit::Vector? by O. STeffen BEYer http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2009/08/msg1338.html Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:01:34 +0000 I need help by stefan.petrea <br/>Hello,<br/><br/>I would like to port a module from linux to Mac OS X.<br/>I have just ne PC and it is not on Power PC architecture.<br/>I want to write a module that will take advantage of fsevents API<br/>in Mac OS X or other similar an in Mac OS X Tiger.<br/>I have really tried all virtualisations possible,pear pc(very very<br/>slow on my hardware),vmware,hackintosh,.img&#39;s of Mac OS X from P2P,<br/>nothing works.<br/>Can you please provide a remote account on which I could work on?<br/><br/>Regards,<br/>Stefan<br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2008/03/msg1337.html Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:04:26 +0000 [ macperl-Bugs-1789069 ] precision error with bank transactions by SourceForge.net Bugs item #1789069, was opened at 2007-09-05 18:34<br/>Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter<br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=1789069&amp;group_id=7940<br/><br/>Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,<br/>including the initial issue submission, for this request,<br/>not just the latest update.<br/>Category: MacPerl Application<br/>Group: Development Branch<br/>Status: Open<br/>Resolution: None<br/>Priority: 5<br/>Private: No<br/>Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Summary: precision error with bank transactions<br/><br/>Initial Comment:<br/>hard to believe perl actually has a bug in adding up 31 bank transactions, but here it is:<br/><br/>#!/usr/bin/perl<br/><br/>use strict;<br/><br/>open (f,&quot;&lt;LTM&quot;);<br/>my $i=0;<br/>my $bal=0.0;<br/>while(&lt;f&gt;) {<br/> chomp;<br/> ++$i;<br/> print $i,&quot;: $bal + $_ = &quot;;<br/> $bal+= $_;<br/> print $bal, &quot;\n&quot;;<br/>}<br/>close(f);<br/><br/><br/>LTM:<br/>-40.47<br/>-5.01<br/>-61.12<br/>-351.89<br/>-392.33<br/>-101.89<br/>-33.80<br/>-11.12<br/>2859.26<br/>-13.03<br/>-72.98<br/>-10.20<br/>-31.71<br/>-31.71<br/>-957.00<br/>-10.13<br/>-13.96<br/>-31.50<br/>-43.50<br/>-46.15<br/>-11.28<br/>-60.00<br/>-89.01<br/>-10.07<br/>4.80<br/>-166.75<br/>-7.38<br/>-18.01<br/>-43.38<br/>-64.59<br/>-66.09<br/><br/>RESULTS:<br/>1: 0 + -40.47 = -40.47<br/>2: -40.47 + -5.01 = -45.48<br/>3: -45.48 + -61.12 = -106.6<br/>4: -106.6 + -351.89 = -458.49<br/>5: -458.49 + -392.33 = -850.82<br/>6: -850.82 + -101.89 = -952.71<br/>7: -952.71 + -33.80 = -986.51<br/>8: -986.51 + -11.12 = -997.63<br/>9: -997.63 + 2859.26 = 1861.63<br/>10: 1861.63 + -13.03 = 1848.6<br/>11: 1848.6 + -72.98 = 1775.62<br/>12: 1775.62 + -10.20 = 1765.42<br/>13: 1765.42 + -31.71 = 1733.71<br/>14: 1733.71 + -31.71 = 1702<br/>15: 1702 + -957.00 = 745<br/>16: 745 + -10.13 = 734.87<br/>17: 734.87 + -13.96 = 720.91<br/>18: 720.91 + -31.50 = 689.41<br/>19: 689.41 + -43.50 = 645.91<br/>20: 645.91 + -46.15 = 599.76<br/>21: 599.76 + -11.28 = 588.48<br/>22: 588.48 + -60.00 = 528.48<br/>23: 528.48 + -89.01 = 439.47<br/>24: 439.47 + -10.07 = 429.4<br/>25: 429.4 + 4.80 = 434.2<br/>26: 434.2 + -166.75 = 267.45<br/>27: 267.45 + -7.38 = 260.07<br/>28: 260.07 + -18.01 = 242.06<br/>29: 242.06 + -43.38 = 198.68<br/>30: 198.68 + -64.59 = 134.09<br/>31: 134.09 + -66.09 = 68.0000000000003<br/><br/><br/>perl -v<br/><br/>This is perl, v5.8.8 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level<br/>(with 10 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)<br/>...<br/><br/>uname -a<br/>Darwin ip70-179-74-207.dc.dc.cox.net 8.10.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0: Wed May 23 16:50:59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc<br/><br/><br/>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br/><br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=1789069&amp;group_id=7940<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2007/09/msg1336.html Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:41:36 +0000 [ macperl-Bugs-1414711 ] VISEData by SourceForge.net Bugs item #1414711, was opened at 2006-01-25 08:04<br/>Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter<br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=1414711&amp;group_id=7940<br/><br/>Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,<br/>including the initial issue submission, for this request,<br/>not just the latest update.<br/>Category: MacPerl Application<br/>Group: Release 5.6.1r*<br/>Status: Open<br/>Resolution: None<br/>Priority: 5<br/>Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Summary: VISEData<br/><br/>Initial Comment:<br/>I have tried a number of times to install Perl using<br/>MacPerl Web Installer on a Macintosh G5 with Mac OS X<br/>10.4.4. It attenpts to download, but comes up with the<br/>message VISData &quot;seems to be corrupted,&quot; and nothing is<br/>installed. What should I do?<br/><br/>Thank you,<br/>Angela Shiflet<br/>shifletab@wofford.edu<br/><br/>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br/><br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=1414711&amp;group_id=7940<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2006/01/msg1335.html Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:54:18 +0000 [ macperl-Bugs-1414633 ] VISEData by SourceForge.net Bugs item #1414633, was opened at 2006-01-25 06:44<br/>Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter<br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=1414633&amp;group_id=7940<br/><br/>Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,<br/>including the initial issue submission, for this request,<br/>not just the latest update.<br/>Category: MacPerl Application<br/>Group: Release 5.6.1r*<br/>Status: Open<br/>Resolution: None<br/>Priority: 5<br/>Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Summary: VISEData<br/><br/>Initial Comment:<br/>I have tried a number of times to install Perl using<br/>MacPerl Web Installer on a Macintosh G5 with Mac OS X<br/>10.4.4. It attenpts to download, but comes up with the<br/>message VISData &quot;seems to be corrupted,&quot; and nothing is<br/>installed. What should I do?<br/><br/>Thank you,<br/>Angela Shiflet<br/>shifletab@wofford.edu<br/><br/>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br/><br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=1414633&amp;group_id=7940<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2006/01/msg1334.html Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:54:17 +0000 Re: Porting perl to (traditional) Mac OS via Genie by Joshua Juran I would like to add my work to the core (when it&#39;s ready) as a new <br/>platform. Unless anyone objects, the platform name is &#39;Lamp&#39;, <br/>unix-name &#39;lamp&#39;, custom header &#39;lampish.h&#39;, and preprocessor macro <br/>MACOS_LAMP.<br/><br/>On Jul 19, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Joshua Juran wrote:<br/><br/>&gt; On Jul 19, 2005, at 5:43 AM, Dominic Dunlop wrote:<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt;&gt; Good to hear. You don&#39;t say whether this is PPC or 68k Mac OS. I <br/>&gt;&gt; guess the former, though the FAQs on your site make me wonder.<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; Genie requires CFM...<br/>&gt; Genie&#39;s sockets support requires Open Transport ...<br/><br/>I forgot to mention -- Genie builds and runs both as Carbon and <br/>classic. I typically develop in OS X using Carbon, running either <br/>natively or in Classic.<br/><br/>&gt;&gt; MachTen was delivered with gcc, so I didn&#39;t use MPW or CodeWarrior in <br/>&gt;&gt; porting perl. If you search in old perl5-<br/>&gt;&gt; porters archives, you&#39;ll find mail about various issues I tripped <br/>&gt;&gt; over, including malloc() (once tweaked to work, Perl&#39;s own malloc was <br/>&gt;&gt; much faster than Mac OS&#39; own); and fork() (MachTen, thanks to deep <br/>&gt;&gt; and probably dark magic, has both fork() and vfork(), but the latter <br/>&gt;&gt; is MUCH faster, as Mac OS does not support Copy on Write). You&#39;ll <br/>&gt;&gt; also find clues in hints/machten.sh.<br/><br/>Mac OS doesn&#39;t have a malloc(), per se. It has NewPtr(), which is a <br/>dreadfully bad substitute, and the standard C library has one. I don&#39;t <br/>know how MSL&#39;s malloc() compares to MPW&#39;s.<br/><br/>&gt; One of the problems is returning twice. Matthias got the idea to <br/>&gt; provide vfork() as a macro that calls setjmp(), which he implemented <br/>&gt; in his Natty project.[2] I opted against this for now, since what <br/>&gt; you&#39;d have to do with the return value of setjmp() to implement proper <br/>&gt; vfork() semantics and what the standard says you&#39;re allowed to do with <br/>&gt; it are not compatible. AFAICT you&#39;re not even allowed to assign the <br/>&gt; return value to a variable. It might work anyway, but I didn&#39;t wish <br/>&gt; to go there.<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; My interim solution requires as a compromise that code be written thus:<br/><br/>[snip]<br/><br/>&gt; The trick here is that for a Genie plugin, vfork() saves the caller&#39;s <br/>&gt; process context and returns the child pid (once), is_child_pid() is <br/>&gt; the identity function (always true for a pid), and either execve() <br/>&gt; (unless it fails) or _exit() restores the original process context AND <br/>&gt; RETURNS. (Unless you call without forking, in which case it <br/>&gt; terminates the caller&#39;s thread.)<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; Hey -- it works, doesn&#39;t it?<br/><br/>For trivial uses, yes, but perl&#39;s code is rather more involved. I <br/>revisited Matthias&#39; Natty project -- he writes:<br/><br/> #define vfork() setjmp( *NattyVFork() )<br/><br/>NattyVFork() dynamically allocates and returns a jmp_buf* which is <br/>dereferenced and passed to setjmp(). One problem with this is that <br/>there&#39;s no way to return -1 on failure. I did this:<br/><br/> #define vfork() ( SpawnVFork() ? -1 : setjmp(gVfork_jmp_buf) )<br/><br/>SpawnVFork() does almost the same thing that my old vfork() did, but <br/>returns 0 on success. Genie programs have private globals, so we can <br/>use a global for the jmp_buf. Execve() and _exit() save getpid(), call <br/>their respective kernel routines, and (for execve(), if successful) <br/>longjmp() with the saved pid. The standard library makes very weak <br/>guarantees about setjmp(), but fortunately Metrowerks delivers what we <br/>need.<br/><br/>We now have a working &#39;system&#39; operator.<br/><br/>Josh<br/><br/>-- <br/>Joshua Juran<br/>Metamage Software Creations - Mac Software and Consulting<br/>http://www.metamage.com/<br/><br/> * Creation at the highest state of the art *<br/><br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2005/07/msg1333.html Fri, 22 Jul 2005 06:04:58 +0000 Re: Porting perl to (traditional) Mac OS via Genie by Joshua Juran On Jul 19, 2005, at 5:43 AM, Dominic Dunlop wrote:<br/><br/>&gt; On 19/07/2005, at 10:27 AM, Joshua Juran wrote:<br/>&gt;&gt; I&#39;m porting perl to a platform called Genie, which is a Unix-like <br/>&gt;&gt; subsystem that runs in Mac OS. The purpose of this exercise is to <br/>&gt;&gt; have a command-line perl tool available for Mac OS, in a stdio <br/>&gt;&gt; environment with polymorphic file descriptors, without the <br/>&gt;&gt; limitations of MPW.<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; Good to hear. You don&#39;t say whether this is PPC or 68k Mac OS. I guess <br/>&gt; the former, though the FAQs on your site make me wonder.<br/><br/>I wonder too. I haven&#39;t looked at them in years. :-)<br/><br/>Genie requires CFM -- Genie programs are built as CFM drop-ins, or <br/>plugins. CFM-68K Runtime Enabler 4.0 requires System 7.6.1, which <br/>requires a 32-bit clean ROM (and perhaps a 68020 or better). This <br/>leaves out the Mac II, IIx, IIcx, SE/30, and 68000-based machines <br/>(unless an earlier version of the CFM-68K Runtime Enabler with an <br/>earlier system works, which I don&#39;t plan to test any time soon). While <br/>it might be possible to use code resources (with Genie fiddling the A4 <br/>register for plugin globals) I don&#39;t see the value, since much faster <br/>Macs are readily available on the cheap. Genie does actually build and <br/>run on 68K, although you have to patch a bug in Threads.h if you want <br/>to use Thread Manager callbacks without crashing.<br/><br/>Genie&#39;s sockets support requires Open Transport -- MacTCP is not <br/>supported. I don&#39;t think this will upset anyone.<br/><br/>One caveat is that Open Transport only supports CFM-68K as of version <br/>1.3, which requires Mac OS 8.1, which in addition to ruling out <br/>anything less than a 68040 nails you to a specific OS version. <br/>Fortunately, the OTCFM68KGlue library hacks around this by calling OT <br/>from a 68K code resource and should make it possible to support System <br/>7.5.5 and 7.6.1. I haven&#39;t tried this yet.<br/><br/>&gt; Back in the day, I worked on keeping Perl running on PPC MachTen, a <br/>&gt; commercial UNIX-under-Mac OS product from Tenon Intersystems <br/>&gt; (http://www.tenon.com). The product, though still apparently <br/>&gt; available, is, as far as I know, unsupported, and suffers from a <br/>&gt; number of long-standing bugs and security issues. Vague requests from <br/>&gt; some users that the code be open-sourced after support ended were <br/>&gt; rebuffed.<br/><br/>Apple phrased it this way: &quot;Open source is not a dumping ground for <br/>dead products.&quot;[1]<br/><br/>Most unfortunate, since I&#39;m sure I could have found *something* useful <br/>in the source code. ;-) Other closed Unix-on-Mac products include <br/>Mac06 and (though this is a stretch) Apple&#39;s own MPW. Open-source <br/>projects include MacMiNT and PATMOS.<br/><br/>&gt; MachTen was delivered with gcc, so I didn&#39;t use MPW or CodeWarrior in <br/>&gt; porting perl. If you search in old perl5-<br/><br/>Genie requires a real C++ compiler to build, which rules out MrC/SC. <br/>Plugins shouldn&#39;t require C++ at all, but I haven&#39;t investigated using <br/>anything other than MW C. Perhaps I should -- I ran into some curious <br/>MW linker issues that prevent me from linking Genie plugins against my <br/>own shared libraries, and had to link in the standard library <br/>statically.<br/><br/>&gt; porters archives, you&#39;ll find mail about various issues I tripped <br/>&gt; over, including malloc() (once tweaked to work, Perl&#39;s own malloc was <br/>&gt; much faster than Mac OS&#39; own); and fork() (MachTen, thanks to deep and <br/>&gt; probably dark magic, has both fork() and vfork(), but the latter is <br/>&gt; MUCH faster, as Mac OS does not support Copy on Write). You&#39;ll also <br/>&gt; find clues in hints/machten.sh.<br/><br/>One of the problems is returning twice. Matthias got the idea to <br/>provide vfork() as a macro that calls setjmp(), which he implemented in <br/>his Natty project.[2] I opted against this for now, since what you&#39;d <br/>have to do with the return value of setjmp() to implement proper <br/>vfork() semantics and what the standard says you&#39;re allowed to do with <br/>it are not compatible. AFAICT you&#39;re not even allowed to assign the <br/>return value to a variable. It might work anyway, but I didn&#39;t wish to <br/>go there.<br/><br/>My interim solution requires as a compromise that code be written thus:<br/><br/> #ifndef macintosh<br/> #define is_child_pid( pid ) ((pid) == 0)<br/> #endif<br/> <br/> pid_t pid;<br/> <br/> while ( (pid = vfork()) == -1 ) sleep(5);<br/> <br/> if ( is_child_pid( pid ) )<br/> {<br/> /* We&#39;re the child */<br/> /* setenv, dup2, etc. */<br/> <br/> execve( ... );<br/> <br/> _exit( EXIT_FOO );<br/> }<br/> <br/> /* We&#39;re the parent */<br/> <br/> waitpid( ... );<br/><br/>The trick here is that for a Genie plugin, vfork() saves the caller&#39;s <br/>process context and returns the child pid (once), is_child_pid() is the <br/>identity function (always true for a pid), and either execve() (unless <br/>it fails) or _exit() restores the original process context AND RETURNS. <br/> (Unless you call without forking, in which case it terminates the <br/>caller&#39;s thread.)<br/><br/>Hey -- it works, doesn&#39;t it?<br/><br/>The third way is to decide you&#39;re not just an application but really <br/>part of the operating system and actually implement per-process <br/>address spaces, a la MachTen. This has been left as an exercise for <br/>the reader.<br/><br/>For implementing qx// and system, vfork() is sufficient. For fork, we <br/>should be able to use the same perl_clone()-based emulation that <br/>Windows uses. See perlfork. It may even be possible to clone into a <br/>&#39;real&#39; Genie process (which is really a kind of pseudo-process) without <br/>resorting to pseudo-(pseudo-)processes, such that &#39;fork and exit&#39; would <br/>work.<br/><br/>Josh<br/><br/>[1] ...When asked to open-source HyperCard, at the &#39;Apple Handshake&#39; <br/>session of MacHack 2000.<br/><br/>[2] http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/natty/<br/><br/>-- <br/>Joshua Juran<br/>Metamage Software Creations - Mac Software and Consulting<br/>http://www.metamage.com/<br/><br/> * Creation at the highest state of the art *<br/><br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2005/07/msg1332.html Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:22:31 +0000 Re: Porting perl to (traditional) Mac OS via Genie by Dominic Dunlop On 19/07/2005, at 10:27 AM, Joshua Juran wrote:<br/>&gt; I&#39;m porting perl to a platform called Genie, which is a Unix-like <br/>&gt; subsystem that runs in Mac OS. The purpose of this exercise is to <br/>&gt; have a command-line perl tool available for Mac OS, in a stdio <br/>&gt; environment with polymorphic file descriptors, without the <br/>&gt; limitations of MPW.<br/><br/>Good to hear. You don&#39;t say whether this is PPC or 68k Mac OS. I <br/>guess the former, though the FAQs on your site make me wonder.<br/><br/>Back in the day, I worked on keeping Perl running on PPC MachTen, a <br/>commercial UNIX-under-Mac OS product from Tenon Intersystems (http:// <br/>www.tenon.com). The product, though still apparently available, is, <br/>as far as I know, unsupported, and suffers from a number of long- <br/>standing bugs and security issues. Vague requests from some users <br/>that the code be open-sourced after support ended were rebuffed.<br/><br/>MachTen was delivered with gcc, so I didn&#39;t use MPW or CodeWarrior in <br/>porting perl. If you search in old perl5-porters archives, you&#39;ll <br/>find mail about various issues I tripped over, including malloc() <br/>(once tweaked to work, Perl&#39;s own malloc was much faster than Mac OS&#39; <br/>own); and fork() (MachTen, thanks to deep and probably dark magic, <br/>has both fork() and vfork(), but the latter is MUCH faster, as Mac OS <br/>does not support Copy on Write). You&#39;ll also find clues in hints/ <br/>machten.sh.<br/><br/>Or contact me.<br/>-- <br/>Dominic Dunlop<br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2005/07/msg1331.html Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:48:25 +0000 Porting perl to (traditional) Mac OS via Genie by Joshua Juran Greetings,<br/><br/>I&#39;m porting perl to a platform called Genie, which is a Unix-like <br/>subsystem that runs in Mac OS. The purpose of this exercise is to have <br/>a command-line perl tool available for Mac OS, in a stdio environment <br/>with polymorphic file descriptors, without the limitations of MPW. <br/>(E.g. MPW tools cannot call other programs; only MPW Shell scripts can <br/>do this. Genie could be used to run CGI scripts from a Web server.)<br/><br/>Also, I understand that perl 5 is a build requirement for parrot. <br/>Another goal of this project is to support parrot development on Mac <br/>OS.<br/><br/>In most ways, Genie-ish perl will resemble unix perl more than MacPerl <br/>-- e.g. open() takes Unix pathnames, and in general everything works <br/>like a unix, even if it isn&#39;t. The only thing that&#39;s absolutely out of <br/>the question is fork(), since Mac OS has a universal flat address <br/>space, and well-behaved apps like Genie don&#39;t muck about in the address <br/>translation tables. But with the right misbehavior even that&#39;s a <br/>possibility, though one for another time. In the meantime, Genie <br/>provides something vaguely resembling vfork().<br/><br/>Tonight I produced a minimally functioning miniperl. I owe many thanks <br/>to Matthias Neeracher and Chris Nandor for their efforts on MacPerl, <br/>and especially Matthias for GUSI, from which I&#39;ve heavily borrowed for <br/>Genie.<br/><br/>Genie is actually part of a project I unfortunately named LAMP (LAMP <br/>Ain&#39;t Mac POSIX) before I was aware of the more common expansion. I&#39;ve <br/>since renamed it &#39;Lamp&#39; in the hope that that will stem at least a <br/>little confusion.<br/><br/>Josh<br/><br/>-- <br/>Joshua Juran<br/>Metamage Software Creations - Mac Software and Consulting<br/>http://www.metamage.com/<br/><br/> * Creation at the highest state of the art *<br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2005/07/msg1330.html Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:48:25 +0000 RIP ExtUtils::MM_MacOS by Michael G Schwern MacPerl is now officially unsupported by MakeMaker.<br/><br/>When I originally started fixing up MakeMaker, I took pains to make the<br/>necessary changes to MM_MacOS so it would, in theory, continue to work.<br/>But due to a lack of response from MacPerl users, I haven&#39;t bothered keeping<br/>MM_MacOS up to date for a long time. As a result, MM_MacOS fell quite out<br/>of date with the rest of MakeMaker and no longer works.<br/><br/>So, for the following reasons, I decided to delete the MacPerl code.<br/><br/>* I&#39;ve gotten no reports or patches from MacPerl users in the last year.<br/>* My posts to macperl-porters for help have gotten little response.<br/>* macperl-porters@perl.org has had no real activity since last June.<br/>* OS X seems to be doing a fine job of driving MacOS Classic into the grave <br/>* The code duplication in MM_MacOS.pm is prohibitive to keep in sync with<br/> the rest of MakeMaker.<br/>* MakeMaker never worked very well on MacPerl.<br/>* Module::Build works better on MacPerl than MakeMaker ever did and work has<br/> started on a MakeMaker to Module::Build converter.<br/><br/>Anyone wishing to resurrect MacPerl support can recover the code either<br/>from 6.21 or CVS, though honestly you&#39;d probably be better of starting<br/>from scratch or helping Module::Build.<br/><br/>I did leave some bits of MacPerl support in MakeMaker, namely the auxillary<br/>libraries like ExtUtils::Install and ExtUtils::Manifest that other<br/>modules (like Module::Build) rely on.<br/><br/><br/>-- <br/>Michael G Schwern schwern@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/<br/>If God made anything more guerrila than your breast, I hope he kept it for<br/>your father.<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2004/04/msg1329.html Fri, 02 Apr 2004 12:24:07 +0000 HI by neeri <br/><br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2004/01/msg1328.html Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:58:23 +0000 Test by schwern 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http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2004/01/msg1316.html Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:00:21 +0000 Test by barries <br/><br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2004/01/msg1315.html Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:18:30 +0000 Re: [MacPerl-Porters] problem with Text::xSV by Chris Nandor At 18:13 +0200 2003.06.27, ouahiba kherbache wrote:<br/>&gt;Hi,<br/>&gt;I have a problem running the module Text::xSV with macperl<br/>&gt;the message error:<br/>&gt;on MacOS , we need to build under Perl Source Directory or have the<br/>&gt;MacPerl SDK<br/>&gt;can you help me?<br/>&gt;thanks<br/><br/>Please read perlmodinstall for information on how to install perl modules<br/>with MacPerl. You should be using MacPerl 5.6.1 probably, but if not, you<br/>can read it here:<br/><br/> http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6/pod/perlmodinstall.html<br/><br/>Otherwise, read the version included in the MacPerl 5.6.1 distribution (it<br/>is newer than the above version).<br/><br/>-- <br/>Chris Nandor pudge@pobox.com http://pudge.net/<br/>Open Source Development Network pudge@osdn.com http://osdn.com/<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/06/msg1314.html Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:53:09 +0000 problem with Text::xSV by ouahiba kherbache Hi,<br/>I have a problem running the module Text::xSV with macperl<br/>the message error:<br/>on MacOS , we need to build under Perl Source Directory or have the MacPerl SDK<br/>can you help me?<br/>thanks<br/><br/>Best Regards<br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/06/msg1313.html Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:13:28 +0000 Re: [MacPerl-Porters] Current MakeMaker likely completely broken on MacPerl by Michael G Schwern On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 07:37:12AM -0400, Chris Nandor wrote:<br/>&gt; &gt;I haven&#39;t heard any comment from MacPerl users about MakeMaker for months<br/>&gt; &gt;so I figured I&#39;d just fire off another flare to see if there&#39;s any<br/>&gt; &gt;interest. The longer it remains broken the further it will drift and<br/>&gt; &gt;the more painful it will be to fix.<br/>&gt; <br/>&gt; What is the current version in maint-5.8/perl? Whatever is in there was<br/>&gt; tested somewhat a few weeks ago. Apart from that, if someone wants to<br/>&gt; write a bunch of tests for Mac::Carbon, I can make time to test MakeMaker<br/>&gt; ...<br/><br/>maint-5.8 used to be 6.03, the same as it was in 5.8.0, but just last week<br/>I brought it up to 6.06_05 and last night again up to 6.10_02. So<br/>maint-5.8 contains the up to the spanking minute version of MakeMaker.<br/><br/>It would probably be easier for you to download the MakeMaker alpha off<br/>of CPAN or take a snapshot off makemaker.org and test that as a seperate<br/>module against MacPerl 5.8.0. Less variables to deal with (ie. is perl<br/>broken or MakeMaker) and much faster build/test turnaround time.<br/><br/><br/>-- <br/>&lt;purl&gt; Hey Schwern! honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk,<br/>honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk,<br/>honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk,<br/>honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk,<br/>honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk! <br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/04/msg1312.html Tue, 08 Apr 2003 01:41:55 +0000 Re: [MacPerl-Porters] Current MakeMaker likely completely broken on MacPerl by Chris Nandor At 14:39 -0700 2003.04.07, Michael G Schwern wrote:<br/>&gt;On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 07:37:12AM -0400, Chris Nandor wrote:<br/>&gt;&gt; &gt;I haven&#39;t heard any comment from MacPerl users about MakeMaker for months<br/>&gt;&gt; &gt;so I figured I&#39;d just fire off another flare to see if there&#39;s any<br/>&gt;&gt; &gt;interest. The longer it remains broken the further it will drift and<br/>&gt;&gt; &gt;the more painful it will be to fix.<br/>&gt;&gt;<br/>&gt;&gt; What is the current version in maint-5.8/perl? Whatever is in there was<br/>&gt;&gt; tested somewhat a few weeks ago. Apart from that, if someone wants to<br/>&gt;&gt; write a bunch of tests for Mac::Carbon, I can make time to test MakeMaker<br/>&gt;&gt; ...<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt;maint-5.8 used to be 6.03, the same as it was in 5.8.0, but just last week<br/>&gt;I brought it up to 6.06_05 and last night again up to 6.10_02. So<br/>&gt;maint-5.8 contains the up to the spanking minute version of MakeMaker.<br/><br/>Then the next time I test maint-5.8, I will test MakeMaker.<br/><br/><br/>&gt;It would probably be easier for you to download the MakeMaker alpha off<br/>&gt;of CPAN or take a snapshot off makemaker.org and test that as a seperate<br/>&gt;module against MacPerl 5.8.0. Less variables to deal with (ie. is perl<br/>&gt;broken or MakeMaker) and much faster build/test turnaround time.<br/><br/>I don&#39;t know if I have the time to do test it separately.<br/><br/>-- <br/>Chris Nandor pudge@pobox.com http://pudge.net/<br/>Open Source Development Network pudge@osdn.com http://osdn.com/<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/04/msg1311.html Mon, 07 Apr 2003 15:09:40 +0000 Re: [MacPerl-Porters] Current MakeMaker likely completely broken on MacPerl by Chris Nandor At 20:56 -0700 2003.04.06, Michael G Schwern wrote:<br/>&gt;Lemme just remind everyone that as of 6.06_01 MakeMaker is likely to be<br/>&gt;completely broke on MacPerl. There have been huge code changes between<br/>&gt;6.05 and the current version, 6.10_01. I don&#39;t have an MPW setup to try<br/>&gt;it out on and I&#39;ve given up trying to keep ExtUtils::MM_MacOS in sync.<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt;I haven&#39;t heard any comment from MacPerl users about MakeMaker for months<br/>&gt;so I figured I&#39;d just fire off another flare to see if there&#39;s any<br/>&gt;interest. The longer it remains broken the further it will drift and<br/>&gt;the more painful it will be to fix.<br/><br/>What is the current version in maint-5.8/perl? Whatever is in there was<br/>tested somewhat a few weeks ago. Apart from that, if someone wants to<br/>write a bunch of tests for Mac::Carbon, I can make time to test MakeMaker<br/>...<br/><br/>-- <br/>Chris Nandor pudge@pobox.com http://pudge.net/<br/>Open Source Development Network pudge@osdn.com http://osdn.com/<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/04/msg1310.html Mon, 07 Apr 2003 05:08:57 +0000 Current MakeMaker likely completely broken on MacPerl by Michael G Schwern Lemme just remind everyone that as of 6.06_01 MakeMaker is likely to be <br/>completely broke on MacPerl. There have been huge code changes between <br/>6.05 and the current version, 6.10_01. I don&#39;t have an MPW setup to try <br/>it out on and I&#39;ve given up trying to keep ExtUtils::MM_MacOS in sync. <br/><br/>I haven&#39;t heard any comment from MacPerl users about MakeMaker for months<br/>so I figured I&#39;d just fire off another flare to see if there&#39;s any<br/>interest. The longer it remains broken the further it will drift and<br/>the more painful it will be to fix.<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/04/msg1309.html Mon, 07 Apr 2003 02:29:01 +0000 Re: [MacPerl] MacPerl 5.6.1r2 installation by Bart Lateur On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:33:24 +0100, louis wrote:<br/><br/>&gt;i just download the &quot;MacPerl 5.6.1r2 Full Installer&quot; in the Mac OS Classic <br/>&gt;(pre-X) section. but it&#39;s impossible to expend this binarie archive.<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt;my os is 8.6, carbonLib 1.6 and stuffit 7.0.1. <br/>&gt;<br/>&gt;i look at the type/creator of the downloaded file and see : BINA/hDmp.<br/>&gt;hDmp ?? hoho.... it&#39;s a disk image format for jaguar (osx 10.2) no ?<br/><br/>I recently upgraded myself, MacOS 8.6 also, and I can confirm that it<br/>works. Perhaps your browser didn&#39;t complete its work when downloading<br/>the file? Perhaps it&#39;s your MIME type to creator/type mapper.<br/>&quot;BINA/hDmp&quot; sounds like &quot;binary/hexdump&quot; to me. So it&#39;s just some<br/>anonymous, likely unassociated binary file.<br/><br/>Do you have Stuffit Expander? Dropping the downloaded file (which is<br/>supposed to be a .bin file) on it, might expend it to the actual<br/>installer, which is a program.<br/><br/> HTH,<br/> Bart.<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/03/msg1308.html Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:58:54 +0000 MacPerl 5.6.1r2 installation by louis hello from france,<br/><br/>i just download the &quot;MacPerl 5.6.1r2 Full Installer&quot; in the Mac OS Classic<br/>(pre-X) section. but it&#39;s impossible to expend this binarie archive.<br/><br/>my os is 8.6, carbonLib 1.6 and stuffit 7.0.1.<br/><br/>i look at the type/creator of the downloaded file and see : BINA/hDmp.<br/>hDmp ?? hoho.... it&#39;s a disk image format for jaguar (osx 10.2) no ?<br/><br/>please where can i get macperl for classic, accordiing to my configuration ?<br/>or are they others solution to expend this file in classic mode ?<br/><br/><br/><br/>(i try MacPerl 5.6.1r2 Web Installer, but it&#39;s the same problem).<br/><br/><br/>thanks<br/>thanks<br/>thanks<br/><br/><br/>louis<br/><br/><br/>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<br/>... et Dieu cr&eacute;a l&#39;homme. Les autres utiliseront Windows2000.<br/>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/03/msg1307.html Sun, 30 Mar 2003 01:40:13 +0000 [ macperl-Bugs-708832 ] Minor bugs in Archive::Tar when creating new archives by SourceForge.net Bugs item #708832, was opened at 2003-03-24 16:10<br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=708832&amp;group_id=7940<br/><br/>Category: Standard Library (Modules)<br/>Group: Release 5.6.1r*<br/>Status: Open<br/>Resolution: None<br/>Priority: 5<br/>Submitted By: Bart Lateur (bartlateur)<br/>Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Summary: Minor bugs in Archive::Tar when creating new archives<br/><br/>Initial Comment:<br/>When trying to create a compressed tar file on Mac, I<br/>discovered two small bugs in the MacPerl port of<br/>Archive::Tar - I think it&#39;s that version that comes<br/>with MacPerl5.6.1r2. These are:<br/><br/> 1) It looks like umask returns undef on MacPerl. I get<br/>a warning for every time I invoke add_data:<br/><br/> Use of unitialized value in integer subtraction (-)<br/> File &quot;...:Archive:Tar.pm&#39;; Line 785<br/><br/>A similar bug must reside in the routine add_files.<br/><br/> 2) When I call $tar-&gt;write(&#39;file.tgz&#39;, 1), the<br/>created archive file is of type &#39;TEXT&#39; (actually a<br/>BBEdit file) -- MacPerl&#39;s default for new files. This<br/>is bound to give problems when trying to FTP this file<br/>without thinking. But it isn&#39;t very Mac-friendly, anyway.<br/><br/>I&#39;m not sure what it&#39;s supposed to be... my file<br/>extensions to type/creator coupling seems to be using<br/>&quot;Gzip&quot; for compressed, &quot;.tgz&quot; and &quot;.gz&quot; files, and<br/>&quot;TARF&quot; for uncompressed &quot;.tar&quot; files.<br/><br/>The latter may even not be considered a bug, but an<br/>annoyance.<br/><br/>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br/><br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=708832&amp;group_id=7940<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/03/msg1306.html Mon, 24 Mar 2003 06:56:25 +0000 [ macperl-Bugs-702179 ] 5.8 Tests by SourceForge.net Bugs item #702179, was opened at 2003-03-12 08:11<br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=702179&amp;group_id=7940<br/><br/>Category: None<br/>Group: Release 5.8.xr*<br/>Status: Open<br/>Resolution: None<br/>Priority: 5<br/>Submitted By: Chris Nandor (pudge)<br/>Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Summary: 5.8 Tests<br/><br/>Initial Comment:<br/>Outstanding broken tests, unrelated to other open bugs:<br/><br/>::ext:Devel:DProf:DProf.t<br/>test needs porting<br/><br/>::ext:Devel:Peek:Peek.t (21)<br/>fails on tainted value<br/><br/>::lib:h2ph.t<br/>::lib:h2xs.t<br/>tests need porting<br/><br/>:op:taint.t (158 164 170)<br/>issues with O_RDWR<br/><br/>:x2p:s2p.t (47, 48)<br/>no idea why<br/><br/><br/>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br/><br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=702179&amp;group_id=7940<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/03/msg1305.html Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:59:48 +0000 [BUG] Typo in "MacPerl.podhelp" by Thomas Wegner Chris,<br/><br/>there is a typo in &quot;MacPerl.podhelp&quot;. The line in question is<br/><br/>pod:lib/Mac/Sounds.pm Sound Manager<br/><br/>and it should be<br/><br/>pod:lib/Mac/Sound.pm Sound Manager<br/><br/>(Sound.pm without trailing &#39;s&#39; )<br/><br/><br/>Regards,<br/>Thomas<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/02/msg1304.html Fri, 07 Feb 2003 06:45:29 +0000 [ macperl-Bugs-679861 ] Mac::Resources broken with OS X DF .rsrc files by SourceForge.net Bugs item #679861, was opened at 2003-02-03 14:35<br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=679861&amp;group_id=7940<br/><br/>Category: Mac Toolbox (Mac:: modules)<br/>Group: Development Branch<br/>Status: Open<br/>Resolution: None<br/>Priority: 5<br/>Submitted By: Alex Eddy (arekkusu)<br/>Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)<br/>Summary: Mac::Resources broken with OS X DF .rsrc files<br/><br/>Initial Comment:<br/>Resource Manger calls don&#39;t work with OS X&#39;s<br/>datafork-style resources, using MacCarbon 0.03:<br/><br/>use Mac::Memory;<br/>use Mac::Resources;<br/><br/>my $rsrcfile = &quot;Datafork.rsrc&quot;;<br/>my $fileref = FSpOpenResFile($rsrcfile, 0) || die<br/>&quot;Can&#39;t open $rsrcfile: $!&quot;;<br/><br/><br/>results in: &quot;Unknown error: 4294967257&quot;<br/><br/>Traditional resourcefork-style resources work as<br/>expected, but they are deprecated under OS X<br/>(cross-platform issues etc.)<br/><br/>Calling the Resource Manager through CoreServices in C<br/>handles the DF/RF styles transparently. Mac::Resources<br/>ought to do the same.<br/><br/><br/><br/>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br/><br/>You can respond by visiting: <br/>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=107940&amp;aid=679861&amp;group_id=7940<br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/02/msg1303.html Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:02:50 +0000 Re: [MacPerl-Porters] MacPerl Interfacing by Matthias Neeracher &gt; So you want your editor to show up with its own menu, as BBEdit can? <br/>&gt; Most<br/>&gt; of the code to tell you how to do it is available:<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; http://cvs.macperl.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/macperl/macperl/<br/>&gt;<br/>&gt; Specifically, I think you want MPEditor.c. It handles all the<br/>&gt; communication with the external editor (IIRC). It shows you what <br/>&gt; MacPerl<br/>&gt; sends to the external editor, and expects to receive.<br/><br/>Yes. You can find the entire BBEdit protocol on<br/><br/>http://www.barebones.com/support/develop/odbsuite.shtml<br/><br/>I&#39;m not 100% sure that this is still the same protocol, and MacPerl <br/>uses only a subset of it, but it may help you understand the MacPerl <br/>code further.<br/><br/>Matthias<br/><br/><br/> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.macperl.porters/2003/01/msg1302.html Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:38:39 +0000