Hi, I've been working on a filter to do SSL, inspired by David Davis' try in Sprocket and IO::Socket::SSL. It seems to be working pretty well (see attached code; mostly needs more testing and error handling), but I can't release it because it needs more API than filters currently provide (see also the 'POE::Filter error reporting' thread) My current thoughts are to forget about trying to extend POE::Filter but start over in a new namespace (possibly Data::Transform?) That way there's no need to worry about mixing up filters with the old and new apis. And not being in the POE namespace might help convince people that Filters really are useful outside of POE. Of course, there is still need for handling this in Wheel::ReadWrite (and other wheels) too. Not sure whether to subclass those or to add some extra if blocks. I'm mostly writing this email to find out what people think of the idea of doing 'new filters' in a new namespace (and if so, which namespace). But if you think I'm on crack for how I'm doing things in Filter::SSL, please let me know that too :) MartijnThread Next