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From:
Darren Duncan
Date:
March 25, 2010 11:28
Subject:
Re: You never have privacy from your children in Perl 6
Message ID:
4BABAB49.7090204@darrenduncan.net
Carl Mäsak wrote:
> Carl (>>>>), Moritz (>>>), Carl (>>), Moritz (>):
>>>>> <masak> um, so 'protected' is when the deriving classes can see the attribute?
>>>>> <jonalv> yup
>>>>> <masak> that's what 'private' means in Perl 6.
>>>> That's wrong. Perl 6's "private" is like Java's "private" - subclasses
>>>> can't see it.
>>>> It's just Rakudo being leaky at the moment, not a fallacy of the Perl 6
>>>> language. (Yes, we have failing tests for this; no, we don't run them at
>>>> the moment).
>>> That is indeed reassuring. Thank you.
>>>
>>> ...So, how come Perl 6 doesn't have a 'protected' access level? :)
>> Exactly for the reasons you brought up against 'protected' as a default:
>> in encourages people to inherit from a class just to bypass some of the
>> public API.
> 
> Yes, but 'protected' can still be useful in some delimited situations.
> I wasn't asking why it isn't the default -- I was wondering why it
> isn't there at all.
> 
> The conversation we had on IRC
> (<http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2010-03-23#i_2144261>) seems to
> indicate that 'protected' can be emulated with the 'trusts' keyword...
> but that doesn't have any explicit support from the spec, and the
> 'trusts' keyword hasn't been realized in any Perl 6 implementation so
> far.

I seem to recall that Pugs did support 'trusts' a few years ago, and that I used 
it.  But I could be wrong. -- Darren Duncan

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