Bryan, I guess my biggest complaint was that underscore would be the only single character operator that would be in danger of being lumped into the variable name. I forgot about x . I use it all the time. If x has that constraint why not the underscore. I worked at a place where variables_with_names_like_this_were_common. You can see why I have reservations about the overuse of underscores. And about that "shifted" question. I guess I am drinking ways too much Mountain Dew. I was thinking shift as in pop as opposed to shift as in keyboard. Sorry. Erik Lechak ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97Thread Previous | Thread Next