Probably not if it had scales, webbed feet, a hookbill, antennae, a furry coontail, and udders. Otherwise, if it looks like a camel at all, it's considered a trademark violation. I remember someone (whether at O'Reilly or not I don't remember) saying that, even if it looks like a horse but has a hump, it's not allowed. Or was that an alpaca with a llama... The RFC pleads for a community spirit from ORA. Barring that, it seeks a new symbol for the community entirely. A three-humped camel may give a good visual for Perl 6 as it exists today (fantasy and a bit convoluted), but it may be a bit difficult to apply to the upcoming completed language. ;-) BTW, what happened to meta? After a server outage of some length I believe I was removed, but it appears no longer to exist when I try to subscribe. David T. Grove Blue Square Group pete@petes-place.com pete@bluesq2.com > -----Original Message----- > From: RFC850 host name inserted by qmail-smtpd > [mailto:david@nicol6.umkc.edu]On Behalf Of David L. Nicol > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 5:12 PM > To: Larry Wall; perl6-language@perl.org > Subject: Re: Apoc2 - <STDIN> concerns ::::: new mascot? > > > Larry Wall wrote: > > there seems to be a shortage of three-humped camels. > > > At last! the unencumbered image for the mascot! Could > O'Reilly really claim a three-humped camel was an image of > a camel, with a straight face? >