>>>>> "Nathan" == Nathan Wiger <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: Nathan> The key difference is this: $_ always contains the first method Nathan> argument, regardless of whether you're in an object-oriented or Nathan> function-oriented context. So, if you need to support both (like CGI.pm Nathan> and my own File::Remote must), you don't have to write some special Nathan> method that detects whether $_ is a valid class ref (see Nathan> self_or_default in CGI.pm). yes, I like this. Nathan> This fixes a lot of stuff. Plus, "self" is one char shorter than Nathan> "shift"! ;-) Heh! All that typing I would have saved over the years, would probably be equal to the number of characters I've typed here debating this point. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <email@example.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!