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Hi, this is the second round of deliberations on the subject of CPANPLUS. There were many comments in the original thread and as usual the discussion also spiraled into several sub-threads on different topics. I don't want to miss either and I don't want the subject to get stale so I've starting a new thread with the summaries I've gathered. I hope that's okay. CPAN.pm vs. CPANPLUS on VMS: A raised issue was that CPAN.pm doesn't work right on VMS, which is why CPANPLUS is used. Is CPAN.pm really broken on VMS? If so, is it working enough to install CPANPLUS? Here are the comments about specific modules on the original list: * Module::Pluggable: cannot be removed since B::Lint uses it. Thanks to Nicholas Clark for reminding us of this. * File::Fetch: David Golden suggested keeping it since it solves the "opening URIs in Perl" in core. This relates to the thread on having open() handle URIs as well. * Module::Load: suggested for inclusion in core to having module requiring done correctly. Jesse Luehrs suggested using Module::Runtime instead. Vincent Pit suggested copying the better parts of Module::Runtime into Module::Load. * Module::Loaded (along with Module::Load::Conditional): suggested for inclusion by David Golden as a nice core API for checking loaded modules since people don't do it correctly when messing with %INC, etc. * IPC::Cmd: suggested for inclusion. It was also noted to perhaps replace it with IPC::Run but IPC::Run was determined not as reliable as IPC::Cmd on Win32 by BinGOs. Some other issues that were raised and probably deserve their own thread or RT: * Fix documentation on "require $module; 1" and "unlink $file" since they pose possible security risks. Mentioned by chromatic, Leon Timmermans and Tom Christiansen. * Perhaps IPC::Run could be removed as an optional prereq from IPC::Cmd, by BinGOs and David Golden. The entire list of modules, for reference: * File::Fetch - might keep * Term::UI * Object::Accessor * Log::Message * Log::Message::Simple * Locale::Maketext::Simple * Archive::Extract * Params::Check * Module::Load - might keep or might be replaced with Module::Runtime * Module::Load::Conditional - might keep * Module::Loaded - might keep * IPC::Cmd - might keep * CPANPLUS - unavailability might cause unwanted behavior on VMS, should investigate * CPANPLUS::Dist::Build Sawyer.Thread Next