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From:
Andy Dougherty
Date:
May 8, 2012 13:21
Subject:
Re: [perl #41656] microPerl
Message ID:
alpine.DEB.2.00.1205081616220.15672@fractal.phys.lafayette.edu
On Mon, 7 May 2012, James E Keenan via RT wrote:

> On Thu Mar 01 11:08:42 2007, liesinger@lssystems.at wrote:
> > Hi to all
> > 
> > Please create a small Perl distribution with the most importent
> > features only.
> > A lot of developers of embedded systems want to use Perl, but it is to
> > big
> > to burn it into the flash. Now we are running Linux and the Apache
> > server on a
> > hardware platform of the size of matchbox.
> > 
> > The only thing we are missing is Perl for the CGInterface.
> > PHP will offer a microPHP in the future, but PHP, Ruby or Ficl is is
> > not realy what we want.
> > 
> > Thx
> > Willy
> 
> 
> Then ...
> 
> On Tue Mar 20 15:59:13 2007, nicholas wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:55:12AM -0700, Jerry D. Hedden wrote:
> > > > It's just another platform to PORT to
> > > 
> > > One problem with this is defining what would constitute a minimal perl
> > > installation?  It's very much a judgment call.  Off the top of my head,
> > > it should include whatever would be necessary to use 'cpan' and exclude
> > > any modules that are not essential to perl but are available on CPAN
> > > (e.g., Time::HiRes).
> > 
> > I think that that was the consensus of a while ago. Minimal self-contained
> > is perl + enough to run CPAN and install more.
> > 
> > Ultra-minimal (the ultimate) is /usr/bin/perl (with DynaLoader) and rely
> > on the OS package management to bring more.
> > 
> > So in the end, "Minimal" wouldn't have CGI.pm :-)
> > 
> > Now, there is no-one stopping anyone working on making one of these.
> > So if people using small flash-based devices want one, they may wish to
> > scratch their own itch, asking here for advice where necessary.
> > 
> > Nicholas Clark
> > 
> 
> 
> This request for a new way of building/distributing Perl is noted, but
> there doesn't seem to be anything actionable for the Perl 5 RT queue.

Actually, ever since 

    commit 8ebf57cfcb5e1b42b08fcc504d586964abd60221
    Author: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
    Date:   Wed Aug 15 22:51:53 2001 +0000

	Document a bit the art of minimizing the installation,
	based on the p5p discussion.

	p4raw-id: //depot/perl@11685

this issue has been discussed in the INSTALL file, with various
tweaks over the years.

> I recommend that we close this ticket.

Yes, there is nothing further to be done here.

-- 
    Andy Dougherty		doughera@lafayette.edu

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