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From:
Steffen Mueller
Date:
February 29, 2012 12:35
Subject:
Re: [perl #106538] Carp is missing a dot
Message ID:
4F4E8BE9.4050707@cpan.org
On 02/29/2012 11:57 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> The thing that *would* have got it is a "build all of CPAN", which we don't
> have the resources to do for every change. So it gets down to - how do we
> spot which changes need that sort of thing?

It's not just that. While I did expend the effort to write tools for 
CPAN smoking (hacky, yeah, I'll admit that) which have step-by-step 
instructions, and are all set up on a machine that all committers have 
access to, I'm still the only one who's ever volunteered to use it to do 
CPAN smokes.

I suppose I could fill the gap between "run the following couple of 
commands, wait, look at HTML report" to get "click on the following 
button on a web page, wait, look at HTML report". But I doubt THAT level 
of automation is going to help very much. :(

> I think the key thing that was missing here was realising that this change
> broke the CPAN smokers *reporting* setup. Which would have cut off reports,
> and hence hidden the problems.
>
> Regular automated smoke testing to be sure that the reporting setup isn't
> broken seems like the first thing to fix. Unlike "all of CPAN", doing that
> on a fast cycle seems tractable.

Yes, but requires a fair amount of effort to set up and maintain. That's 
not free, particularly, since it'll be one of the people doing it that 
are otherwise spending their time on *different* useful stuff

--Steffen

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