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From:
Jan Dubois
Date:
July 22, 2010 13:37
Subject:
RE: Directions of perl 5 development - requests from companies
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00b501cb29dd$af9a7e40$0ecf7ac0$@activestate.com
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 16:49, Reini Urban <rurban@x-ray.at> wrote:
> > My perl-compiler grant (*after* I fixed and ported the compiler) was put
> > on hold until a company who wants it work sprang in.
> > http://www.perlfoundation.org/grants still does not list it.
> > Looks like the TFP is treating companies bad.
> 
> It's under "Unmanaged Grants", what does that status mean exactly?

It means that the grant doesn't have a grant manager (which also
implies that it isn't active).

Note that Reini's grant was *not* "approved" in 2010Q1, it was "kept"
for re-voting in the next round:

http://news.perlfoundation.org/2010/03/2010q1-grant-proposals-results.html

It means that the grant request should have been voted on again in the
Q2 round, but as far as I know there never was a 2010Q2 round.

Given that grant requests are supposed to auto-expire after two quarters,
even when no grants are approved at all (e.g. due to lack of funds), it
is not clear if this request will still be entered into 2010Q3 automatically
or not.  Better check with Alberto.
 
> > My request for the compiler.perl.org domain analog to the debugger
> > was denied (eh warnocked) for unknown reasons.
> 
> I've also heard of (in the case of distzilla) requests for new mailing
> lists go unanswered. I think these are probably due to overworked or
> inactive admins, not malice.

I wouldn't call it malice, but there is some unwritten assumption that
perl.org resource will only be made available to existing communities.
You will not get a foo.perl.org subdomain or a foo@perl.org mailing
list unless you already have a project with active participants.

I know mst has offered to host things at Shadowcat so that you can show
that there actually is a demand for these domains/mailing lists.
Ignoring this kind of offer probably implies a withdrawal of the
perl.org resource requests. :)

I'm just guessing at this, but it makes complete sense to me: we don't
need a myriad of unused/abandoned sites and lists on perl.org.  We need
fewer with higher value (useful content, pleasant design, actual users).

Cheers,
-Jan



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