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From:
Chris Prather
Date:
April 9, 2010 04:30
Subject:
Re: Slim core, battery suppliers [was: Try::Tiny in Core?]
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i2u12b83b2d1004081714m41dc3d7cl6de7c5598bac75d9@mail.gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Nicholas Clark <nick@ccl4.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 07:13:27PM +0000, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 16:37, Aristotle Pagaltzis <pagaltzis@gmx.de> wrote:

>> Meanwhile I set up a bikeshedding page at
>> http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?batteries
>
> Is there a plan for the policy on whether modules are ever removed from the
> "batteries" version?
>
> For example, someone commented that DBIx::Class feels like a potential module
> to include. If this project had kicked off 8 years ago, then likely back then
> it would have been Class::DBI. So, what would happen to a Class::DBI when
> DBIx::Class was added later on? Keep both? Phased transition?
>
> Does Strawberry Perl have a plan for this? Does Task::Kensho?
> What does ActiveState do with ActivePerl?

Currently Task::Kensho's policy is to "just remove it". Task::Kensho
is in theory on a monthly release cycle, and packages come and go
between releases as I deem necessary. This is because Task::Kensho
specifically states that it isn't a robust enterprise product. It's
simply a glimpse of what such a product would possibly look like.

I publicly asked for help figuring out what such a product really
should be. I got lots of wonderful technical solutions for installing
things and not a single volunteer to help me sort out the *social*
problem of creating and maintaining a policy on adding, deprecating,
and removing packages from an enterprise product. Then I started my
own company. Then I got busy.

> And I'd love to see someone or some group prototype this.
> Branch http://github.com/mirrors/perl and get cracking.

So would I. I would even try to make people like mst and the EPO well
volunteer people to help.

-Chris

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