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running hard to stand still (was Re: 'threads' patches being ignored)

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Nicholas Clark
Date:
April 25, 2006 12:26
Subject:
running hard to stand still (was Re: 'threads' patches being ignored)
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 04:24:35PM +0200, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote:
> Jerry D. Hedden wrote:

> > However, the patches I've been posting are being ignored.  I'm not
> > claiming this is being done purposely, but the phenomenon is occurring:

> And for other lurkers, I don't ignore patches (Hi, Salvador.)
> They're just in that special inbox of mine I use to sort them...

I think that there is a problem here, and I don't know how to resolve it.
Specifically because it's no-one's paid job to hold the fort, responding to
bug reports and patches, it falls to volunteers to do it. And assuming
volunteers exist, they still have to fit it in round everything else, which
means that it things may not happen as quickly as we'd all like.

This statement still holds true even though I'm currently being paid by TPF
to work on core perl, because everything on my grant is a specific named
item, most of which have been festering in the TODO for some time, and none
of it is about "just keep up to date with things". Maybe I should have
budgeted some time in the grant for "holding the fort" but I assumed that
it would have stood less chance of being approved, so I did not. And even if
I had, this doesn't solve the problem long term - after this grant is over
there won't be anyone paid to work on any part of the perl core (as far as I
am aware). Certainly I'm not in a position to put in a grant request for this
as I need to find a new (full time, commercial rate) job.

How do other open source languages, such as Lua, Python, Ruby and Tcl, cope
with day to day maintenance tasks? Are they all volunteer based, or do they
have some paid employees, either directly paid for or donated by $language-
using companies?

Nicholas Clark

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