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From:
Stevan Little
Date:
October 5, 2010 11:07
Subject:
Re: [Frost] v 0.67 on CPAN
Message ID:
C69CAA43-1A70-4A0D-B67B-A897CFAAE5C4@iinteractive.com

On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Chris Fields wrote:

> On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Ernesto wrote:
>
>> Am 05.10.2010 16:26 schrieb Oliver Charles:
>>> On 05/10/10 15:24, Ernesto wrote:
>>>> New Frost version 0.67 is available on CPAN and my homepage.
>>>>
>>>> From the changelog:
>>>>
>>>> 0.67 Su. October 3, 2010
>>>>  - Scalar::Util back in Makefile.PL, corrected doc in Frost
>>>>  - show version of underlying Berkeley DB in t/100_meta/ 
>>>> 000_version.t
>>>>  - t/000_moose_examples and t/000_moose_recipes added and
>>>>    moved the adopted tests from t/400_recipes here to keep the  
>>>> original
>>>>    Moose's name
>>>>
>>>> Ernesto 8-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want to sound rude here, but I don't really appreciate these
>>> emails. I subscribed to the Moose mailing list to get news about  
>>> Moose,
>>> but this is just a bit too far away from Moose for my liking.
>>>
>>> It seems your distribution is mature enough now to have its own  
>>> mailing
>>> list; I find this a little to OT for the Moose mailing list.
>>>
>> Maybe. On the other hand, Frost is tightly bound to Moose - i.e.: You
>> can use almost (as yet) all Moose' features plus Frost's  
>> persistence by
>> just saying:
>>
>> package Foo::Base;
>> # use Moose;
>> use Frost;             # extends Moose::Object with persistence
>> ...
>>
>> package Foo;
>> use Moose;
>> extends 'Foo::Base';   # inherits all persistence stuff
>> ...
>>
>> package Bar;
>> use Moose;
>> extends 'Foo';         # inherits all persistence stuff
>> ...
>>
>> Questions about Frost might show a problem of misunderstanding  
>> Moose or
>> even a bug in Moose - and vice versa.
>>
>> So it might be worth having Frost here on moose@perl.org.
>>
>> By the way: MooseX::* is dealt with here, too.
>>
>> I'd like to hear more opinions.
>>
>> Ernesto 8-)
>
> I agree with the others; this is a mailing list for Moose (and  
> possibly MooseX::*).  I don't recall other distributions using Moose  
> (KiokuDB, Fey, etc) posting here.
>
> chris

Ernesto,

I have to agree with chris here.

I am happy to entertain Moose issues that are encountered with Frost  
development and I think the initial Frost discussion was useful to the  
greater Moose community as well. In fact I would encourage anyone  
writing an ambitious module like Frost, that is so tightly bound to  
Moose, to come here or IRC and discuss things early in the process so  
that they can avoid re-inventing wheels and get some good early  
feedback. And actually, I even don't mind if you announce *major*  
updates of Frost here, but minor updates (like this one) are not  
really appropriate.

But to be honest, I would really prefer that you do not use moose@perl.org 
  as a mailing list for Frost.

As for MooseX:: modules, they are Moose extensions so they should be  
dealt with here.

- Stevan






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