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sawyer x
Date:
May 5, 2008 01:41
Subject:
Re: Module submission Web::DBI
I haven't even noticed the Steffen's CC.
Here is the response I've emailed Steffen back.
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Hey

I'm sorry for the long delay, and I appreciate your efforts to find my
idea a suitable place.

I've been considering your suggestions but I've figured that putting
it in DBIx::WebAdmin while there's DBIx::Web and DBIx::Admin could
create some confusion. And with all due respect (and hell, respect is
due!) to Maypold, Catalyst, Mason and any other named project on CPAN,
I prefer to use something that would:
1. give a feel as a module (because that's what I'm going for)
2. not scare anyone to think it's a completely separate application
and 3. provide people with enough warmth to feel like they could
extend and perfect it.

I was thinking of putting it as Web::DBI or Web::Interface::DBI.
That way people would understand the idea better and it might even
drive a few to write a web interface to something else or extend what
I'm doing.

What do you think? I'm promptly open to suggestions.

Also, I've gone over the Perl Foundation grant proposals and I saw
Grant Grueninger had proposed the following:
http://news.perlfoundation.org/2008/05/2008q2_grant_proposal_dbeditor.html
I want to get in touch with him but it seems like he is looking for a
grant on this. I wouldn't want to get in the way of it.

Sorry for the hassle :)
----

Steffen then suggested to drop the redundancy in Web::Interface::DBI
and Web::DBI - which I concurred to.

I'm still more than open to any suggestions others may have. I
apologize for the mix up with the emails.
Sawyer.


On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Steffen Mueller
<wyp3rlx02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> brian d foy schrieb:
>
>
> > In article <200805041307.m44D7DD7004566@pause.perl.org>, Perl Authors
> > Upload Server <upload@pause.perl.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > The following module was proposed for inclusion in the Module List:
> > >
> > >  modid:       Web::DBI
> > >  DSLIP:       cdpOp
> > >  description: A web interface to DBI, finally.
> > >  userid:      XSAWYERX (Sawyer X)
> > >  chapterid:   15 (World_Wide_Web_HTML_HTTP_CGI)
> > >  communities:
> > >
> >
> > Steffen steered you toward some much better names:
> >
> > http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/modules/2008-05/msg00024.html
> >
> > The web namespace is usually used to connect to existing things on the
> > web, so I don't see how your application fits there.
> >
>
>  Oops. Sawyer X dropped modules@ from the CC list. Short recap: We discussed
> this further.
>
>  Turns out, some of my initial ideas weren't so good. The existing
> DBIx::HTML::* modules are unrelated, so that area's out. I wouldn't have
> included "HTML" in the module name anyway.
>
>  DBIx::Web and DBIx::Admin exist, so Sawyer X considered adding a third
> DBIx::WebAdmin confusing. I tend to agree.
>
>  That only left my suggestion to choose a catchy *name*, potentially
> unrelated to the module purpose (such as Rosetta, etc.).
>
>  I don't think there's a good place to put web applications right now. App::
> doesn't really seem right for web apps. Most apps are under their respective
> web framework top level namespace such as Catalyst. That also seems wrong.
>
>  Web:: isn't really crowded compared to WWW:: or WebService::. So I thought
> it would be okay to use that top level namespace.
>
>  Sorry if this is off.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Steffen
>

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